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Where: Galway, Ireland
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When: 22 September 1883
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A few weeks ago, we met two sisters from the Clonbrock Estate in Ahascragh, Co. Galway. Today's two girls and their dog are equally cute, but hail from the other end of the social spectrum (at least the girls did, can't speak for the dog's lineage). Meet Edith (on the left) and Ethel Dillon, daughters of Baron Clonbrock. Unfortunately, we don't know the dog's name...
It should be possible to find out more about Edith (1878-1964) and Ethel (1880-1978), so I hope some of you may be able to help us...
Photographer: A member of the Dillon Family
Date: Saturday, 22 September 1883
NLI Ref.: CLON55
Source: Flickr Commons
Views: 102305
It should be possible to find out more about Edith (1878-1964) and Ethel (1880-1978), so I hope some of you may be able to help us...
Photographer: A member of the Dillon Family
Date: Saturday, 22 September 1883
NLI Ref.: CLON55
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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The CommonsSource: Flickr Commons
Views: 102305
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John Spooner
Judging by the "Fashion and Varieties" column in Freeman's, no social occasion was complete in the late 1890s (Feb 1898 onwards) without the presence of the Honourable Edith Dillon. The Honourable Ethel's first appearance in the column is May 1899
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner So Edith was "out" from the age of about 20, and then Ethel from about 19?
John Spooner
In Januaary 1905 Edith married Sir William Mahon at
The Times (London, England), Friday, Jan 27, 1905, court circular You can't beat a good flounceAbaseraghAhascragh Church.National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner You certainly can't! Think that should be Ahascragh Church, John. The Clonbrock Estate was at Ahascragh in Co. Galway.
John Spooner
Untimely death KLAXXXON London Times Deaths column, 3rd Sep 1910
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner Oh John, definitely need the Untimely Death Klaxon for this one! Wonder what happened the poor little fella? And it says "only son" (obviously of vital importance in aristocratic families), but wonder if he was Edith's only child?
John Spooner
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland They had one daughter, Ursula, who married Hon. Marcus Crofton in 1928, by which time it's "the late Sir WIlliam H. Mahon"
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Teeny image of Three women standing in front of Clonbrock House on the occasion of Edith Dillon's marriage to Sir William Mahon on 25 January 1905, and another teeny image of Edith Dillon with husband Sir William Mahon, examining a camera in garden, possibly Castlegar House, Ahascragh, Co. Galway.
DannyM8
Lovely Dog
John Spooner
From the short obituary of Sir W. H Mahon in the London Times Aug 16 1926
John Spooner
Faithful Service Letter from Edith A. Mahon in the London Times Jul 25, 1939
John Spooner
Death at a ripe old age KLAXON The death notice for Hon. Lady Mahon appeared in the London Times on April 27 1964. She died at her home in co. Galway at the age of 85.
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner] That letter is tremendous, John! And we have a photo of William Hay, and maybe some of the others named in the letter appear also in our photos...
BeachcomberAustralia
" ... It may not seem very significant but at a time when the Land Commission courts were beginning to lower rents on the estate under the fair rent fixing terms of the 1881 Land Act, his [Baron Clonbrock] agent feared for the future. Economic cutbacks became a necessity. In 1886 five servants were made redundant, an event noted in the family diary as ‘The first fruits of Parnell and Company’. Indeed, big house expenditure at Clonbrock fell by an average of 30 per cent during the period 1882-89, while money spent on the gardens also fell by around 30 per cent. The consequences of rental decline, therefore, had a disproportionate effect on big house expenditure. ... " From www.aughty.org/pdf/clonbrock_history_bighouse.pdf ©Terence Dooley 2003
ccferrie
Here's the 1901 census entry with Edith Augusta Dillon (22) and Ethel Louisa Dillon (20) both born in Roscommon and living at Clonbrock Demesne www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Cloubroc...
ccferrie
William and Edith had a daughter Ursula Augusta Jane. Ethel and older sister Georgiana (both unmarried) were both visiting William & Edith on the night of the 1911 census. www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Galway/Ahascrag...
ccferrie
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner] Ursula married a Crofton and her grandmother's maiden name was Crofton - coincidence? familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGGZ-F72
Niall McAuley
The Mahon and Dillon estates in the NUIG landed estates database.
ccferrie
Here are the two girls with the older sister Georgiana c. 1884
ccferrie
According to Ancestry.com Ethel died in 1978 records.ancestry.com/Ethel_Louisa_Dillon_records.ashx?pid... She would have been 97! Luke died in 1917 and Augusta in 1928 - presumably after the wedding of Ursula to Marcus Crofton [http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner/]?
ccferrie
Some history of the Dillons and Clonbrock House lordbelmontinnorthernireland.blogspot.ie/2012/02/clonbroc...
ccferrie
This article in the Tuam Herald says that Luke Dillon-Mahon had inherited Clonbrock House from Ethel Dillon by 1972 so perhaps Ancestry.com isn't quite accurate.
Niall McAuley
Clonbrock and Castlegar on the OS 25" map at GeoHive.
ccferrie
It seems the family were all keen photographers fotalearningzone.ie/index.php/resources/resource/32/categ...
L-R Ethel, her aunt Katherine Dillon, her mother Lady Augusta, her brother Robert and Edith
Niall McAuley
Clonbrock burned down in the 1980s: Bing aerial view of what's left.
Niall McAuley
Castlegar is still standing.
Niall McAuley
The Luke who died in 1917 was the 4th Baron Clonbrock, the girl's father. The Luke who inherited was Edith's son. See thepeerage website. Presumably he inherited Clonbrock because his older brother George got Casltegar and the Mahon baronetcy. The Clonbrock Barony is extinct, dying with Edith's unmarried brother Robert in 1926.
John Spooner
More deaths klaxon 1926-1928 - not good years for the Dillons After Edith's husband Sir William Mahon's death earlier in 1926, brother Robert died suddenly from heart failure (aged 57) on Nov 2nd 1926, after which the title became extinct.Aunt Katherine died in August the following year aged 80. Another aunt, the Hon. Lady Ellis-Nannery (aka Hon Elizabeth Octavia Dillon) died in January 1928 aged 79. On September 5th 1928 Lady Clonbrock died at Ahascragh in her 89th year. edit: also another aunt Hon. Louisa Emilia Dillon died on 23 May 1927 The next Clonbrock reference in the London Times death columns isn't until 1941 (Georgiana Caroline Dillon on Jan 16)
John Spooner
Oh dear, the untimely death KLAXON is getting worn out. According to the Mahon Papers Collection at the NLI, Edith and WIlliam had another daughter besides Ursula - Mary Edith Georgiana, b. 22 Jun 1911, d. 17 Nov 1918.
La Belle Province
Edith wants to make sure the camera captures her perfect spit-curls, but Ethel would plainly prefer to be elsewhere.
TEXASJOHN
Thank you!
ccferrie
Some info on Lady Augusta's family here
Niall McAuley
The gate of Mote Park, Co. Roscommon (the house is gone)
Swordscookie
Who would have thought a photo of two little girls and a dog would have revealed so much information about a family, a time and a place? I love Ethel's eyes! they clearly say (as http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_belle_province says) "I want to be somewhere else, please?"
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/swordscookie I'm not sure that the dog is too keen on being photographed either.
ccferrie
Lady Augusta was a descendant of Sir Marcus Crofton 1st Baronet of Mote (d. 1774). It can't be a coincidence that Lady Augusta's granddaughter Ursula Mahon married an Arthur Marcus Crofton in 1928 records.ancestry.com/Ursula_Augusta_Mahon_records.ashx?pi... Ursula
Niall McAuley
I hereby dub the dog BC, unless and until his actual name shows up.
Niall McAuley
Hon. Arthur Marcus Lowther Crofton was the son of the 4th Baron. Married 4 times, including to our Ursula.
Swordscookie
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/ I reckon whatever was attracting Ethel's attention was also attracting beecee?
BeachcomberAustralia
Swordscookie
http://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia/ Yay! That's a good one.
ccferrie
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley so he was her first cousin once removed and Lady Augusta's nephew
John Spooner
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] You're not related to the Mahons of Castlegar by any chance, are you? The Mahon Papers Collection at the NLI has this intriguing entry:
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[http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner] The locks of hair always make me shudder! Scroll down to see a photo here from a soldier at Navan Barracks...
BeachcomberAustralia
http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner Ha ha! My maternal grandmother was a Stacpoole-Mahon, bless her - maybe!
John Spooner
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Well if things don't work out (123 years being too early to tell) you could always turn Library Towers into a wig factory.
kathleenbettilyon
Adorable
jasvirsehmbi
Wow
Douge_S
Hmm, does the girl on the left (Edith) have dark curls at the top but lighter hair coming out from her bonnet around her neck? Did someone draw in those curls? (They didn't have adobe photoshop back then, did they?) :P Something about it looks a bit off. Maybe it's just me. :)
outgoing floor
Perfect photo, National Library of Ireland on The Commons... =)
O Mac
The next generation....Ediths twins George Edward John and Mary Edith Georgiania Mahon www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/18324062134/in/photostream/