Where: Cork, Ireland
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When: 01 January 1900
Try to find the date or year when this image was made.
A fine display of pig herding skills on Friar Street in Youghal, Co. Cork.
Date: Circa 1900??
NLI Ref.: L_CAB_07723
Source: Flickr Commons
Views: 74819
Date: Circa 1900??
NLI Ref.: L_CAB_07723
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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The CommonsSource: Flickr Commons
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derangedlemur
OSI: maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,610736,577505,7,7
derangedlemur
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Yep. All the tiles have fallen off the end wall of that house.
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Wonder if the hotel was the Devonshire Arms back then? That's a very fine crest over the door.
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Friary Street from OSI.
BeachcomberAustralia
The "Cars for Hire" sign puts it an iggly wiggly bit later than 1900.
derangedlemur
http://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia It might mean Landaus or similar. They would have been occasionally referred to as cars before the advent of the motor car.
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Yep, [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] is right - sidecars, etc. often referred to as cars. Sometimes "Post Cars for hire" as in this one, pre-1880...
BeachcomberAustralia
Hmm - ok. How about that lady's coat and hat? 1910-ish? Or pigs might fly ...
BeachcomberAustralia
A couple of oinks later - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000316350/Image?lookfor=http:...
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] If it's Oinks you're looking for, have unilaterally declared today to be Pig Day at Library Towers...
derangedlemur
How about some contemporary verse (not my own, and not contemporary with the picture, but it does mention piggies)? This little piggy's gone to market This little piggy took his cut. This little piggy got grassed on This little piggy's gone phut!
Vab2009
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] lol - never heard that version before! Lovely historical piggy shot!
O Mac
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Slaters lists the "Devonshire Arms Hotel" in 1856 so maybe we can assume it was so called in 1900ish. Interesting, it is listed as also being a "posting house and excise office". This must be why we see the letterbox behind the hat lady....This box is still there!! The crest over the door is hard to make out but it has the shapes of the duke of Devonshire's coat of arms. A John Green was proprietor both in the 1901 and 1911census.
Niall McAuley
Posting house would not mean mail in 1846, it would mean that they'd have teams of horses available. A carriage would arrive with tired horses, change to the fresh ones and off you go, post haste. Wikipedia on postilions.
O Mac
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Ah, but that was from 'Slaters 1856 which lists a Mr and Mrs Merry as owner ot the hotel and where it also says ... " "POST OFFICE Archibald Merry, Post Master.--.Letters form Dublin, Cork England arrive every morning at twenty minutes before eight ,and are despatched thereto at twenty-five minutes before five in the evening..A second mail from CORK arrives every evening at eight ,and are despatched thereto at eight every morning.—Letters from Tallow arrive at five minutes past ten every morning, and are despatched there to at ten minutes past two daily.—Letters from Dungarvan arrive at ten minutes past four every afternoon and are despatched there-to at ten minutes before eight every morning." All I'm suggesting is that there's probably a historical reason why the letter box is built into the wall of the Hotel.
Ken's Aviation
Love it!
TEXASJOHN
Piggy Pudding anyone?
O Mac
The hotel was built by the Duke of Devonshire c 1780......one could assume he had help.
Swordscookie
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] 'Ere Carol, go easy on the Polis will you? This is what those guys looked like a day or two later!
La Belle Province
Regarding the hats, and then my work here is done, it is similar to the Grand Duchess Tatiana's, in 1912.
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Sorry the pretty girl has to come after the preceding image, as it should be pearls before swine...
david sankey
A great many Irish pigs went to England - where they would be sent by train to (for instance) marsh and baxter's own rail sidings at Brierley Hill in the west midlands. There they would be led through M+Bs own tunnel beneath the churchyard to the slaughterhouse. So many pigs were slaughtered that it paid them to have a machine that separated brown from white bristles (for use in brushes). I don't kinow how true it was but I was told by people who worked there that they had killed a thousand pigs by breakfast!
Swordscookie
http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_belle_province I agree with those sentiments entirely La Belle! That is a really beautiful shot of the tragic Grand Duchess though she did look a little pouty?
BeachcomberAustralia
DannyM8
You go away for a few weeks and the poor Dogs are forgotten about altogether!!!!!
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] You snooze, you lose, Danny! We're all about the pigs here now... :D
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Bualadh bos mór!
BeachcomberAustralia
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland You are way too kind (and bold). I see from wikipedia that Youghal is pronounced 'yawl', and not to rhyme with Dougal.
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Indeed, Youghal is always a good pronunciation test. As is Naas...
blackpoolbeach
Just in case it has not been posted already, here is Google Street View
en_la_bici
awesome!
Udayan Kapur
the invasion of pigs !!!
L. Neale Clifton
The dubious rhyming? Poetic license.
Womenworldwideweb
Love it !
sixpounder
Draft animals made a nasty mess of public streets. Until these were replaced with gasoline powered vehicles, pigs rendered cities half-way livable. Pigs disposed of the droppings as well as much of the garbage thrown out by humans. .
Carrignafoy
Should have named it Fryer Street, bacon and sausages anyone?
Vab2009
Lol!! What a great image!
Vab2009
Can I see "Cars Hire"? on the left. And even is that an armoured car away back in the distance? If those are there this is later than 1900.
Vab2009
Oh darn... hate the way Flickr hides the earlier comments!
Vab2009
Not only that .. I hate the way Flickr delves up oldies!! Grrrr!! But a goodie to see again!
BeachcomberAustralia
https://www.flickr.com/photos/vab2009 *oink!*
Swordscookie
https://www.flickr.com/photos/vab2009 You developed a sudden interest in piggy wiggies? It is a beauty of a shot and strangely enough it does look like an armoured car down there though it could have been something else!
ART NAHPRO
Thanks for adding this to the Things They Won't Let Us Do Anymore group. Just perfect.
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
I have just added this photo to our 50,000+ Views Album https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/sets/72157651136879037
guliolopez
This scene captured in a video from 1936. Skip to the 5m50s or 6m00s mark. ifiplayer.ie/travelogues-the-irish-riviera/