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Where: Cork, Ireland

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When: 01 January 1895

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… at least, I'm assuming that's the back garden of Bantry House in Cork, with the "front garden" swooping down to the bay.

Date: Circa 1895??

NLI Ref.: L_CAB_04858

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Source: Flickr Commons
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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 21/May/2013 08:35:57

    Oooh-Er, Flickroonies! This is all change, eh? Well, I loaded this one up without saying any bad words at all (and one on our other Flickr stream too - there's a minor mystery attached to that one if you've any time on your hands when you're finished here!) I really miss the map displaying automatically on screen though.

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    DannyM8

    • 21/May/2013 08:46:06

    maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,498658,548206,7,9

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 21/May/2013 08:49:07

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Thanks Danny! Added to the subtly hidden away map.

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    DannyM8

    • 21/May/2013 08:55:18

    www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001819215/ Leigh-White there in 1911 Only Servants there in 1901

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 21/May/2013 08:57:42

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I wonder was that often the case with some of these Big Houses. Census was done in March or April - the family away until the summer?

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    DannyM8

    • 21/May/2013 08:59:04

    From www.bantryhouse.com/bantryhouse/visit-2/history/ 1690 Captain Richard White and family live on Whiddy Island 1701 Richard White (later Counsellor White) is born on Whiddy Island 1765 Richard White (Councillor White) purchases Bantry House (then called Blackrock House). 1767 Birth of Richard White (First Earl of Bantry). 1796 Attempted invasion of Ireland by the French, led by Wolfe Tone. 1797 Richard White created Baron Bantry. 1800 Birth of Richard White (Second Earl of Bantry). 1801 The title of Baron Bantry is advanced to Viscount Berehaven. 1801 Birth of William White (Third Earl of Bantry). 1816 Richard White elevated to the peerage (1st Earl of Bantry). 1820 to 1840 Richard White, Viscount Berehaven travels extensively and creates his collection. 1840 to 1860 The Famine. Major works on the demesne in progress. 1854 Birth of William White (Fourth Earl of Bantry) 1876 Birth of Edward Leigh White 1905 Birth of Clodagh Leigh White 1922 Irish Civil War. Bantry House used as a hospital for 5 years. 1939 to 1945 Second World War. During the war years, the house and stables were occupied by the Second Cyclist Squadron of the Irish Army. 1946 House opens to the public. 1956 Sale of eight important paintings by F. and G. Guardi. Two of which, “Erminia and the Shepherds” and “Carlo and Ubaldo Resisting the Enchantments of Armida’s Nymphs”, are now at the National Gallery in Washington D.C., U.S.A. 1978 Egerton Shelswell-White inherits the house. 1981 Birth of Sophie Shelswell-White 1987 The East Wing of Bantry House was restored to be used as Bed and Breakfast accommodation 1997 The very extensive Archive was donated to UCC,www.booleweb.ucc.ie 1998 Bantry House hosts the first West Cork Music Festival 1998 The garden undergoes major restoration – find out more here 2001 Archaeological findings (conducted by University of Ulster) of a medieval Gaelic village and a 17th century deserted English fishing settlement on the west lawn. 2010 Sophie Shelswell-White becomes General Manager 9th December 2012 death of Egerton Shelswell-White Obituaries: Irish Times Irish Independent

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    DannyM8

    • 21/May/2013 09:03:14

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Did I hear that on the radio over the weekend? I did hear or read about it recently - " In London for the season" The social season or Season has historically referred to the annual period when it is customary for members of a social elite of society to hold debutante balls, dinner parties and large charity events. It was also the appropriate time to be resident in the city rather than in the country, in order to attend such events.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 21/May/2013 09:04:36

    A modern aerial view in Bing maps

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    DannyM8

    • 21/May/2013 09:07:42

    From bantryhouse.com/bantryhouse/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Th... When Lord Bantry died in 1868 he had indeed left his mark on Bantry House. But he left no children. The title and estate therefore passed to his brother, William, who until then had lived at Macroom Castle, an inheritance from his great uncle, Robert Hedges-Eyre. By his wife (Jane Herbert of Muckross), William, 3rd Lord of Bantry, had five daughters and an only son who became the 4th and last Lord Bantry. On his death the title became extinct and the property passed through his eldest sister Elizabeth Leigh, who assumed the additional name White. Mr Leigh-White, who had married Arethusa Hawker, died in 1920 and was succeeded by his daughter, Clodagh now Mrs ShelswellWhite. The more recent history of Bantry House and its owners is so closely linked with the art treasures in the house that it is well to mention a few of the items included in Lord Bantry's collection. Most of the pieces he brought there are still at Bantry. Stephen Gwynne has said that they gain piquancy by contrast with the rugged beauty which surrounds the house and has referred to them as ‘the Wallace Collection of Ireland.’

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    DannyM8

    • 21/May/2013 09:15:31

    I am not sure about these "Improvements to Flickr" It is more difficult to edit comments and it feels less intuitive and less user friendly

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    DannyM8

    • 21/May/2013 09:29:52

    Lots of Archives on the house at UCC Library booleweb.ucc.ie/index.php?pageID=261

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    Niall McAuley

    • 21/May/2013 09:31:55

    From the NUIG landed estates database:Bantry House was held in fee by the Earl of Bantry at the time of Griffith's Valuation, when it was valued at £125. The house history indicates it has been the home of the White family since about 1765 when Richard White purchased what was then Blackrock House. Wilson still refers to it by the latter name in 1786 but it is named Bantry House on the 1st edition Ordnance Survey map of the 1830s. The house has been open to the public since 1946 and a prestigous music festival is held there each summer. For more information see www.bantryhouse.com.

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    DannyM8

    • 21/May/2013 09:33:00

    www.census.nationalarchives.ie/exhibition/cork/main/LROY_... The Cunsus website uses this photo..

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 21/May/2013 09:57:14

    Is that a ferry at the bottom of the garden? ;-) Wonderful looking place.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 21/May/2013 10:15:22

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Wow, that Bing Bird's Eye shows they stayed quite faithful to the planting and terraces evident in this photo.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 21/May/2013 10:19:45

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Thanks for all the great family information, Danny! How're you coping with the changes? I had a look on [http://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia]'s Flickr Forum link, and users are having absolute caniptions...

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    DannyM8

    • 21/May/2013 10:26:38

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland I am with them - why change something that worked so well. perhaps we will get used to it in time?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 21/May/2013 10:38:57

    I'm sure some of the changes will be OK once we are used to them, but I really liked the old style: nice and clear, black on white (unless you deliberately chose the lightbox).

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 21/May/2013 10:43:04

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley We are creatures of habit alright! I'll have to set my mind to finding Cover Images for both streams...

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    derangedlemur

    • 21/May/2013 12:16:04

    The new flickr is an abomination!

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 21/May/2013 12:40:17

    I thought this photo rang a bell - I saw a TV program "Country House Rescue" last year about Bantry House and its financial and fabric problems - I think they had a 'pop-up' restaurant or something horrendously trendy (like this horrendous pop-up Flickr upgrade!). This link to the program might just work in Ireland (it doesn't in Australia) - www.channel4.com/programmes/country-house-rescue/episode-...

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 21/May/2013 12:54:41

    There's a similar 'now' view at 0.16 and 0.52 in this trailer for the above program - youtu.be/TMnJzyA9goQ . That wonderful conservatory is no more.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 21/May/2013 13:10:35

    try adding /?details=1 at the end of your flickr URLs, like this: www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley/?details=1

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    derangedlemur

    • 21/May/2013 13:39:07

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley That is far less irritating.

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    derangedlemur

    • 21/May/2013 13:41:34

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Can something be done about the view and comments?

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    guliolopez

    • 21/May/2013 14:17:46

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Indeed. I saw that as well. Mr Shelswell-White is a lovely man (met him last time was in Bantry - we have "people from Bantry", and some one of us is down there every few months). I think everyone who's ever been to Bantry House has taken a photo from the same vantage. I have at least 10 taken from that spot at the top of the topmost steps. In terms of dating the photo, the greenhouse/conservatory/lean-to construction at the back of the house hasn't been there for a long time. Any Bantry locals (or even the Shelswell-White's themselves) might use that to help dating. Perhaps Bearaboy [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] can help? Also, if anyone has a super-duper CSI enhancing machine the steamer in Bantry Bay might also help with dating. (It doesn't look like it's the Princess Beara or Elsie, but you never know...)

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    Niall McAuley

    • 21/May/2013 16:12:33

    Here's another useful one to hit and then bookmark: www.flickr.com/activity

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 21/May/2013 16:13:24

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Had a good look at the steamer - definitely much longer and slimmer than Princess Beara or Elsie, but no hope of making out any name!

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 21/May/2013 16:27:48

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Niall, your /?details=1 suggestion is genius! Thank you very much.

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    BearaBoy

    • 25/May/2013 20:34:30

    Hello All, here's a (18-shot) stitched panoramic shot I took on 21 April 2013 of the 'back garden' of Bantry House. This was taken from the top of the '100 steps' feature in the garden - close to where the NLI shot was taken. The more observant of you will see that my son (brown trousers, black jacket, white shirt) features twice in the shot, to the right, and in front of, the fountain. Kids - they never stay still when you want them to... IMG_2296_stitch 25%-001

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    BearaBoy

    • 26/May/2013 18:19:40

    PS: I'm really not liking the new format Flickr.... At all. I tried penning a polite limerick about the new flickr. But failed dismally. All attempts would have offended the moderators too much.

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    ferraradesign1 - www.ferrara-design.it

    • 15/Mar/2015 11:42:23

    great house

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    Doctor Kibble

    • 03/Sep/2015 16:31:56

    Stunning capture, beautiful photo.