Try to find the spot where the photographer was standing.
1886 - lots of ships sunk at moorings
14 Ships in total see www.irishwrecksonline.net/Lists/WicklowListA.htm
On 15-16th October 1886 a hurricane, at least equal in intensity to the Great Wind of 1839, devastated the island for two days before leaving a further trail of shipwreck, death and destruction in the Irish Sea, Wales, southern England, and northern Europe and may be the same that swept across Texas and Louisiana on the 12th. Its passage across Ireland was described in daily and regional newspapers; though many have little or no local information. Locally the Wicklow Newsletter had reports, 23rd October to the end of November, from Bray, Greystones, Wicklow and Arklow, but none from the mountains. The damage in Arklow where the flooding and storm damage were worst, was widely reported around Ireland.
The worst damage happened in Arklow when floodwaters, of a height and volume not seen in living memory, floated one of the many dilapidated old hulks lying derelict in the upper part of the river. It collided with the Ida, a schooner owned by James Tyrell, which was hove down on her side and attached to a heavy barge by pulleys for repairs. The three were then swept into the fleet of fishing smacks, anchored lower down, carrying twentythree out of the harbour, while the Ida passed the new pier and was thrown broadside onto the pier slope on the southern side of the breakwater with the hulk’s keel lodged inside, where it rapidly broke up. Most of the smacks were holed below their water lines and sank at the river’s mouth, while the rest were swept out to sea
Some Reports in the Irish times on 17th October 1886
This photo must have been taken here
The Next photo in the Archives catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000042372/Image?lookfor=http:... I think confirms that it is around this date.
The GeoHive OS 25" is from 1907, but I'm pretty sure that notch in the North shore is on it.
The Board of Works, who was usually criticized after any such disaster, was cleared in this instance, as it was the Wicklow Copper Mining Company who placed the wooden mooring post to which the Ida was attached.
Representatives of the Board of Works and Irish Fisheries Board (and on behalf of the Lord Lieutenant) visited the scene, while the Deputy Receiver of Wrecks, on behalf of the Board of Trade, held a preliminary and private investigation. What the Harbour Master thought of the disaster was not recorded, which is a pity as some years
previously he had prosecuted the hulk’s owners but lost the case (and costs) because it was argued that they were doing no harm and would be repaired when the fishing improved
Other losses were ...... Annie (James Murphy) ........ Carol I see you have a tag Anne could it be Annie?
Freeman's account of the aftermath of the storm at Arklow October 18 1886
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Danny, you're fantastic. Thank you! Given the next Lawrence photo in the series, we're surely safe with a date of October 1886!
I'd love to go wild and maybe say circa 25 October, but it's impossible to tell how long the wreckage remained or how long it was before Robert French (if it was he) got to Arklow to record the aftermath of the storm...
P.S. Anne is the name on one of the little boats - I added a note.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Thank you very much!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Niall, it's very blurry, but I think that Something Something Arklow is Irish Man Arklow...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner Could that fallen over "bollard" type thingy be one of the "insecure moorings" spoken of in your article??
The Graphic, November 6 1886
http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner The Graphic was a weekly, wasn't it?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Yes, every Saturday. I think there was often a long lead time between the event and the appearance of illustrations in the Graphic. Credits are often 'drawn by X from a photograph by Y'
L_ROY_00418 shows the same small building you see at the right of this shot from upriver, but now you can see the enormous Chemical Works behind it, as seen on the OSI 25" linked above.
Niall re the Chemical works from DIA - Does not help our dating!!!
Name: MORRISON, JOHN 2
Building: CO. WICKLOW, ARKLOW, CHEMICAL MANURE WORKS
Nature: Plans prepared and building supervised by JM. Engineer: B.T. Patterson.
Refs: IAA, PKS B05/06, A03 (1868-1870, p.114v); P.J. Power, The Arklow Calendar (1981), 106 (B. of I.)
Great bit of detective work and a great history lesson. Thanks to all.
The gale and floods of 15th/16th October 1886
Belfast: A great deal of damage was done to the grain
Dublin: All the rivers were in high flood and low-lying lands were submerged.
Arklow (Wicklow): River rose to an unprecedented flood height
Tuesday 30 November 1886 The South Australian Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1858 - 1889)
The Arklow lifeboat helped to save some fishing boats which had been driven from their anchors by a derelict hulk which had broken from her moorings, and which boats must have been lost in the absence of the lifeboat.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland You were lucky to have moved this ship from Arklow to Dublin - it could have been caught up in the carnage.....
Date: Between 15 October 1886 and 3 April 1887
NLI Ref.: L_ROY_00426
The start date is interesting, but probably a little early and the end date a lot late.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Up the NLI! Not least due to your own diligence and good humor.
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Well done with the [http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/] stats -
In honour we doff virtual hats.
There's lies and damn lies
Who really is giving a rat's .... ?
From - Arklow RNLI rnli.org/findmynearest/station/Pages/Arklow-Lifeboat-Stat...
Silver Medal awarded to Second Coxswain William Manifold on 3 May 1877, who during the past 11 years, has been out on service 22 times and has assisted to save 44 lives.
Five Silver medals have been awarded, the last being voted in 1877.
Surprisingly there is no mention of the events of 1886 on the Arklow RNLI History
William Manifold is mentioned along with others in Ian Cantwell's paper.
News of the catastrophe was quickly spread through the town and in a very short time “all the inhabitants were on the pier and regardless of rain and sea they gazed on the scene of destruction”. It was impossible to launch the lifeboat due to the flood so volunteer men; women and children carried it half a mile to the beach. Five launch attempts failed when it was thrown broadside back up to the beach but the sixth was successful and carrying a crew of John Reilly, Charles Tyrell, Laurence McDonagh, William Manifold , Michael Manifold, Matthew Flood, John Waddock, Richard Hayes, John Mahon, Peter Murphy, James Russell, Samuel Kinsella, James Timmins and Richard Waddock (coxswain) plus around thirty volunteers set off on rescue. They first reached the Glance, a first class mackerel boat (Thomas Kavanagh) about five miles offshore. It was boarded and brought back to port with difficulty as it had been holed and would not have survived much longer. Next found was the Green Flag (Neill & Hannigan), about half a mile from the bank and eight miles from the harbour. It was boarded by Daniel, Patrick and Andrew Neill, sons of the owner, and Peter Waddock and brought back safely, as was the Jackdaw (J. Reynolds) by a crew of three. The Safe Return (W. Canterbury) caused problems as she drifted dismasted between Glassgonnan Bank and Arklow Rock about six and a half miles from shore. The first attempt to rescue her failed when the first man to attempt boarding her (Kendall) fell into the sea and was rescued with difficulty. However, nearby was the undamaged Mary Francis (Mrs. Kearon), and she was used to tow the former back to harbour. The lifeboat was unable to save one that went down on the banks and another was seen drifting on the far side
What a great thread NLI, of interest all the way, once again kudos to you.