Where: Monaghan, Ireland
Try to find the spot where the photographer was standing.
When: 01 January 1930
Try to find the date or year when this image was made.
Gorgeous registration plates all beautifully visible on Main Street, Carrickmacross, Co. Monaghan: BI 709: BI 1641; BI 1661: AZ 4036; IY 1892!
Though shaking metaphorical fist at the driver of the Nugent's bus, his mate, and the dogs for obscuring the number plate on the bus...
Date: Circa 1930s??
NLI Ref: EAS_3291
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Though shaking metaphorical fist at the driver of the Nugent's bus, his mate, and the dogs for obscuring the number plate on the bus...
Date: Circa 1930s??
NLI Ref: EAS_3291
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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DannyM8
maps.google.ie/maps?q=Carrickmacross&hl=en&ll=53....
Niall McAuley
25" map link at GeoHive.
DannyM8
maps.google.ie/maps?q=Carrickmacross&hl=en&ll=53.... Hand Footwear Still There on the left
DannyM8
Please keep your fists to yourself and leave the dogs alone.....
Niall McAuley
There is still a Central Bar on the right.
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] 'Twas only a metaphorical fist I was shaking!
DannyM8
Looks Like Pratt globes on the petrol pumps - Think we saw before that Pratt in Ireland became Esso or were taken over by Esso. From Esso website As the motor car began to find favour in 1904, the Anglo-American Oil Company quickly moved into selling petrol and by 1910 was firmly established in Ireland. The motor fuel marketed at the time was called Pratts Perfection Spirit and was imported from America in a highly distinctive 2-gallon green can, complete with brass stopper. Following a number of name changes the Irish-American Oil Company changed its name to Esso in 1935 and then eventually to Esso Ireland Ltd in 1985.
derangedlemur
The bus appears to be a Vulcan Emperor.
DannyM8
Logo on bus radiator could be Bristol? http://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/2050011887/
Swordscookie
Not one but two dogs, that must be a record:-)
DannyM8
Scratch Bristol [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Vulcan is Correct - but Duchess - rather than emperor - see www.gracesguide.co.uk/File:Im20100829Sh-Vu-EC8852.jpg
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Vulcan Duchess it is, thanks chaps! That's a lovely shot of one unhidden by dogs, Danny
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/swordscookie] Well I was very happy to have two dogs for Danny, but this is our current record holder with about 20!
DannyM8
No Mention of a Duchess - emperor noted as a double decker. Possibly Brisbane - but photo of Duchess is a very close match? Amongst the buses twenty seater buses were sold from 1922 on the two-ton chassis. A 6.6 L Vulcan-engined 32-seat Brisbane came in 1928 and the Emperor double decker in 1930. In 1931, the company went into receivership but the receiver managed to keep production going until 1937, when the remains of the company was sold to Tilling-Stevens of Maidstone, Kent. Tilling-Stevens was taken over by the Rootes Group in 1950 and a new 7 tonner appeared at that year's Commercial Motor Show in London. Rootes had their own established commercial makers in Commer and Karrier and both Vulcan and Tilling-Stevens vanished finally in 1953.
DannyM8
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Should the Tag for Devlin's Central Bar be Shevlin's Central Bar?
DannyM8
Now on Facebook!! www.facebook.com/pages/Shevlins-Central-Bar/120542608002876
derangedlemur
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Good job. I could only find the thumbnail of that image so I couldn't read the radiator branding.
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Yes! You caught me out in a big fat guess (sloping off shamefacedly)
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Thanks Danny! I posted this photo on their page...
DannyM8
So a While after Feb 1928 to get to AZ 4036 AZ Registrations - Belfast (B). Reg. LettersYear LetterStart -> End Date (if known) AZFEB 1928 -> NOV 1932 AZAPR 1960 -> Read more at www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/registrations/az.htm#34aed8raPHVp...
DannyM8
Mazda was a trademarked name registered by General Electric in 1909 for incandescent light bulbs. The name was used from 1909 through 1945 in the United States by General Electric and Westinghouse. Mazda brand light bulbs were made for decades after 1945 outside the USA.
DannyM8
www.myhometown.ie/310/Main_Street/971.html Same photo here - with an approx. date of 1935
DannyM8
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/4679048859/
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
This definitely wasn't taken in January 1931, as there's a snippet in the Anglo-Celt from Saturday, 17 January 1931 saying:
(Love the very correct use of 'Bus)Swordscookie
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Dems not dogs dems hounds;-)
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/swordscookie You mean they ain't nothin' but Hound Dogs?
Niall McAuley
The garage has a sign advertising Shell (as well as Pratt pumps).
Swordscookie
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Oh somebody's still on a chocolate high since Easter:-)
oaktree_brian_1976
yeah, looks like a "VU" on the radiator. From 1930, production was solely of trucks and buses which had been made seriously since 1922. Many of the trucks were aimed at the municipal market and road sweepers and refuse trucks sold well. Amongst the buses twenty seater buses were sold from 1922 on the two-ton chassis. A 6.6 L Vulcan-engined 32-seat Brisbane came in 1928 and the Emperor double decker in 1930. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulcan_%28motor_vehicles%29 So late 1920's early 30's. That looks like about a twenty seat bus.
oaktree_brian_1976
Kinda looks like this one, so probably close to 1930... transpressnz.blogspot.ca/2012/11/vulcan-bus-at-leigh-engl...
billh35
The vehicle is a Vulcan Duke built with Vulcan 20 seat bus bodywork which was one of a batch of five - IB 4078, 4082, 4222, 4405/6 delivered new to Nugents Bus Service of Keady, Co. Armagh in 1929. The badge on the radiator grille clearly shows a "k" as in "Duke" so it isn't one of the larger Vulcan Duchesses - of which there were two - IB 4404 and IB 4689 - registered in the north (there were two more Duchesses registered in the south - BI 1871 and 1872. The Duchesses had larger 26 seat bodies. Nugents also operated two larger Vulcan VWBL 31 seaters - TE 2039 and GD 5184 and a third larger 31 seat Vulcan CD 3158. All of these vehicles would pass to the Great Northern Railway of Ireland in 1931 with 11 entering service (all except CD 3158) with IB 4404, IB 4689, TE 2039, GD 5184 passing to the Northern Ireland Road Transport Board in 1935. Nugents were an early example of a cross border operation which became embroiled in the politics with vehicles registered in North and South and falling foul of political masters in two different countries. The company would later reappear as an independent operator once more but had ceased again by 1992.
robinparkes
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Quite right AZ - Belfast so the car is well away from home. Maybe a commercial traveller. IY - Louth and BI - Monaghan so they are a bit nearer. Carrickmacross was the farthest placed contract I ever worked on. It was Rye Valley Foods.
O Mac
Lovely to see a tradesman at work. In this case a plasterer applying a scratch coat.
billh35
Many years later a takeover of the Londonderry & Lough Swilly Railway in the early 1980's by Ulsterbus was blocked when the powers that be at Stormont said that as a government owned bus company, Ulsterbus could not be seen to be providing bus services in "another sovereign state". Those involved at Ulsterbus stated that the company already did in County Monaghan and on the routes which Nugents had run many years before. A fact that the Northern Ireland Office were unaware of obviously! The take over never happened!
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Go Nugent's! :)
opileon
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