"Mock Gothic Castle in parkland" = Johnstown Castle, Wexford!
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Where: Clare, Ireland
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When: 01 January 1870
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It certainly does look Mock Gothic, but we didn't have a name for this castle until today. I'd looked at some of the usual suspects around the country but couldn't find a match. Now thanks to franmol, we know this is Johnstown Castle in Wexford...
Date: 1860-1883
NLI Ref.: STP_1555
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Date: 1860-1883
NLI Ref.: STP_1555
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derangedlemur
I'd dare say a search for "hotel" will throw it up soon enough...
derangedlemur
I've definitely seen it before somewhere, but it might not have been in the flesh - it could be long gone.
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Is that the sound of you volunteering? ;)
blackpoolbeach
It's another wood-and-canvas creation. They posed a very small man in front to make it look bigger.
Blackcountryman
Could it be Ashford Castle, Cong County Mayo?
TJ.Photography
a shot in the dark: Ashford castle in Co. Mayo?
TJ.Photography
http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackcountryman LOL
Vab2009
You need www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] - he has stayed in a few hotels like this - www.celticcastles.com/castles/ashford/
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpoolbeach Had to double check you wrote "PEERING into the bushes" on your note! :D I love his very smart umbrella - presume that's no use to us for dating? Were umbrellas like that on the go from mid-19th century?
Vab2009
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tj_q8 Lol I Was just looking at Ashford Castle - I don't think the turrets are the same design - have a look at the link above.
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackcountryman http://www.flickr.com/photos/tj_q8 Thanks, but Ashford Castle was the first one I checked. Towers all wrong - roundy (technical term) in our image. Ashford ones are square...
TJ.Photography
oh yes i remember they were square .. i had a panorama of one of them then im blank lol ... i didnt see much castles in my 2 visits to ireland :) only Aughnanure, and Ashford hmmm and Cashel rock and cahir ... suddenly it sounds too much doesnt it ? lol
probable ice
i'm gonna try Johnstown castle in wexford???
blackpoolbeach
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] "Samuel Fox invented the steel-ribbed umbrella in 1852; however, the Encyclopédie Méthodique mentions metal ribs at the end of the eighteenth century, and they were also on sale in London during the 1780s." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbrella
DannyM8
Probably a ruined gothic castle now? Lots like this destroyed in the early 1900's
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/franmoll] By George, I think you've got it! Slim round towers to left and right. Fat round tower and square tower in middle with clock face! What do the rest of ye think?
Swordscookie
Lismore in Waterford? The estuary etc. would all match.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lismore_Castle
probable ice
definitely not lismore. too low lying. good shot though cookie
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/swordscookie Naw, Lismore is very square all around, if you know what I mean! What think you of Johnstown Castle. I think http://www.flickr.com/photos/franmoll is right...
Niall McAuley
Interesting. Here are two shots of the castle from the nli archive: In this one, the creeper left of the big bay window is exactly as we see it in this STP image. In this one, there is no creeper at all. Both are listed as 1865 - 1914. Oh, and GeoHive 25" OS link, Streetview.
probable ice
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland (blushes)
Niall McAuley
http://www.flickr.com/photos/franmoll Well done indeed!
scooter2017
I also think its Johnstown Castle in Wexford.
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley That pesky 1865-1914 collection date for Lawrence again (that you've all been helping us to nibble away at)...
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Yay! Johnstown Castle in Wexford it it then, thanks a million to the fabulous http://www.flickr.com/photos/franmoll and up goes a Location Identified tag... :)
Vab2009
http://www.flickr.com/photos/franmoll Well done!
Cuddly Nutter
http://www.flickr.com/photos/vab2009 I thought it was Ashford at first too.
Cuddly Nutter
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Nope still there the estate is now home to the Irish Agricultural Museum, www.irishagrimuseum.ie/johnstown_castle_estate/johnstown_...
probable ice
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley cheers Niall
probable ice
http://www.flickr.com/photos/vab2009 cheers Vab
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Thanks for the co-ordinates!
corncrake68
Situated near the village of Murringtown in Co Wexford the castle and grounds are about two mile off the main N11 (Rosslare Road) near Wexford town. A favourite location for all the local brides to go and have their wedding photos taken. Makes a beautiful background and you are bound to get a visit from the peacocks that roam around the place. Entry to the delightful grounds used to be free but there is now an admission fee as from this year. A visit to the nearby agricultural museum is very interesting
Farshad Sanaee The Apple
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bartholowaty | Photography
Nicely done - good work my friend ... ---- Bart
guliolopez
http://www.flickr.com/photos/franmoll Good stuff franmol. We visited the grounds only a few weeks back and recognised it first time. But I was too late to the party yet again. http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Carol it might be worth a look through any other Grogan-Morgan Johnstown Castle photos at some point to confirm, but the dapper gent PEERING through the bushes could very well be one of the Grogan-Morgan's. (In one of the last rooms of the Agri-museum are two or three displays on the history of the castle itself. Including some smashing photos of weddings, etc. Many of which I decided were possibly taken by the Poole studio. The composition and use of rugs/etc put me in mind of other Poole shots you've posted here...)
John Mac Giolla Phádraig Leisen
Respect,.,!!!
oaktree_brian_1976
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland I too thought the man was "relieving" himself...Guess that's what the umbrella was for, to hide, or to avoid splashback if it's windy... lol
oaktree_brian_1976
Oh Carol, do you have any pictures from our fine Dominion (Canada)? Your rivals at the UK National Archives posted a whole book worth of stuff recently, and I had a grand old time tagging things there. There was a large Irish immigration wave to Montreal in the 19th century, and a few of them came to Upper Canada as well (Ontario), where I live.
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] None of Canada posted here to date, unless you think this mystery one might be Canada rather than America. I can ask the staff in our Photographic Archive if we've any definitely Canadian photos, though our rule of thumb is not to post images here unless they're already catalogued...
oaktree_brian_1976
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Ok, we'll see what magic you can work! That mystery photo eludes me, typical homestead, could be just about anywhere. If we had a name of one of those in the photo, we could search by census records or some such thing over here.
XPAT-Polska
Wonderful place - this shot is a bit earlier than my image :-)
Taken in May 2012
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Very lovely!
Caesar1956
1912: www.flickr.com/photos/vudigitallibrary/4786768546/in/albu...
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Thanks for posting.
John Spooner
Is that clock-face?
Niall McAuley
The Fitzgeralds lived in Johnstown Castle around this time. Here is the 1881 birth record for Geraldine Mary, child of Adelaide née Forbes and Maurice Fitzgerald of Johnstown Castle. Here is an entry at thepeerage for Lord Maurice Fitzgerald, 1852-1901, so aged from 8 to 35 in this date range. Definitely a possible subject for the later part of the possible dates. His death in 1901 aged 48 gives the same address.