"Mock Gothic Castle in parkland" = Johnstown Castle, Wexford!

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Where: Clare, Ireland

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When: 01 January 1870

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It certainly does look Mock Gothic, but we didn't have a name for this castle until today. I'd looked at some of the usual suspects around the country but couldn't find a match. Now thanks to franmol, we know this is Johnstown Castle in Wexford...

Date: 1860-1883

NLI Ref.: STP_1555

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
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    derangedlemur

    • 31/Aug/2012 08:31:32

    I'd dare say a search for "hotel" will throw it up soon enough...

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    derangedlemur

    • 31/Aug/2012 08:34:09

    I've definitely seen it before somewhere, but it might not have been in the flesh - it could be long gone.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 31/Aug/2012 08:34:28

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Is that the sound of you volunteering? ;)

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    blackpoolbeach

    • 31/Aug/2012 08:47:56

    It's another wood-and-canvas creation. They posed a very small man in front to make it look bigger.

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    Blackcountryman

    • 31/Aug/2012 08:49:15

    Could it be Ashford Castle, Cong County Mayo?

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    TJ.Photography

    • 31/Aug/2012 08:49:48

    a shot in the dark: Ashford castle in Co. Mayo?

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    TJ.Photography

    • 31/Aug/2012 08:50:01

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackcountryman LOL

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    Vab2009

    • 31/Aug/2012 08:50:03

    You need www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] - he has stayed in a few hotels like this - www.celticcastles.com/castles/ashford/

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 31/Aug/2012 08:50:11

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpoolbeach Had to double check you wrote "PEERING into the bushes" on your note! :D I love his very smart umbrella - presume that's no use to us for dating? Were umbrellas like that on the go from mid-19th century?

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    Vab2009

    • 31/Aug/2012 08:50:49

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/tj_q8 Lol I Was just looking at Ashford Castle - I don't think the turrets are the same design - have a look at the link above.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 31/Aug/2012 08:52:07

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackcountryman http://www.flickr.com/photos/tj_q8 Thanks, but Ashford Castle was the first one I checked. Towers all wrong - roundy (technical term) in our image. Ashford ones are square...

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    TJ.Photography

    • 31/Aug/2012 08:54:08

    oh yes i remember they were square .. i had a panorama of one of them then im blank lol ... i didnt see much castles in my 2 visits to ireland :) only Aughnanure, and Ashford hmmm and Cashel rock and cahir ... suddenly it sounds too much doesnt it ? lol

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    probable ice

    • 31/Aug/2012 09:05:10

    i'm gonna try Johnstown castle in wexford???

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    blackpoolbeach

    • 31/Aug/2012 09:07:50

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] "Samuel Fox invented the steel-ribbed umbrella in 1852; however, the Encyclopédie Méthodique mentions metal ribs at the end of the eighteenth century, and they were also on sale in London during the 1780s." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbrella

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    DannyM8

    • 31/Aug/2012 09:08:41

    Probably a ruined gothic castle now? Lots like this destroyed in the early 1900's

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 31/Aug/2012 09:14:04

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/franmoll] By George, I think you've got it! Slim round towers to left and right. Fat round tower and square tower in middle with clock face! What do the rest of ye think?

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    Swordscookie

    • 31/Aug/2012 09:14:31

    Lismore in Waterford? The estuary etc. would all match.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lismore_Castle

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    probable ice

    • 31/Aug/2012 09:19:34

    definitely not lismore. too low lying. good shot though cookie

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 31/Aug/2012 09:21:00

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/swordscookie Naw, Lismore is very square all around, if you know what I mean! What think you of Johnstown Castle. I think http://www.flickr.com/photos/franmoll is right...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 31/Aug/2012 09:39:27

    Interesting. Here are two shots of the castle from the nli archive: In this one, the creeper left of the big bay window is exactly as we see it in this STP image. In this one, there is no creeper at all. Both are listed as 1865 - 1914. Oh, and GeoHive 25" OS link, Streetview.

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    probable ice

    • 31/Aug/2012 09:54:46

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland (blushes)

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    Niall McAuley

    • 31/Aug/2012 10:00:55

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/franmoll Well done indeed!

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    scooter2017

    • 31/Aug/2012 10:02:38

    I also think its Johnstown Castle in Wexford.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 31/Aug/2012 10:11:45

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley That pesky 1865-1914 collection date for Lawrence again (that you've all been helping us to nibble away at)...

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 31/Aug/2012 10:12:49

    Yay! Johnstown Castle in Wexford it it then, thanks a million to the fabulous http://www.flickr.com/photos/franmoll and up goes a Location Identified tag... :)

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    Vab2009

    • 31/Aug/2012 10:24:20

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/franmoll Well done!

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    Cuddly Nutter

    • 31/Aug/2012 10:26:38

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/vab2009 I thought it was Ashford at first too.

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    Cuddly Nutter

    • 31/Aug/2012 10:35:43

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Nope still there the estate is now home to the Irish Agricultural Museum, www.irishagrimuseum.ie/johnstown_castle_estate/johnstown_...

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    probable ice

    • 31/Aug/2012 10:37:38

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley cheers Niall

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    probable ice

    • 31/Aug/2012 10:37:58

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/vab2009 cheers Vab

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 31/Aug/2012 10:40:41

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Thanks for the co-ordinates!

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    corncrake68

    • 31/Aug/2012 11:43:45

    Situated near the village of Murringtown in Co Wexford the castle and grounds are about two mile off the main N11 (Rosslare Road) near Wexford town. A favourite location for all the local brides to go and have their wedding photos taken. Makes a beautiful background and you are bound to get a visit from the peacocks that roam around the place. Entry to the delightful grounds used to be free but there is now an admission fee as from this year. A visit to the nearby agricultural museum is very interesting

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    Farshad Sanaee The Apple

    • 31/Aug/2012 13:34:26

    ,.~* That Was A Time *~.,

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    bartholowaty | Photography

    • 31/Aug/2012 14:50:39

    Nicely done - good work my friend ... ---- Bart

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    guliolopez

    • 31/Aug/2012 14:54:34

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/franmoll Good stuff franmol. We visited the grounds only a few weeks back and recognised it first time. But I was too late to the party yet again. http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Carol it might be worth a look through any other Grogan-Morgan Johnstown Castle photos at some point to confirm, but the dapper gent PEERING through the bushes could very well be one of the Grogan-Morgan's. (In one of the last rooms of the Agri-museum are two or three displays on the history of the castle itself. Including some smashing photos of weddings, etc. Many of which I decided were possibly taken by the Poole studio. The composition and use of rugs/etc put me in mind of other Poole shots you've posted here...)

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    John Mac Giolla Phádraig Leisen

    • 31/Aug/2012 17:14:38

    Respect,.,!!!

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    oaktree_brian_1976

    • 01/Sep/2012 03:36:37

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland I too thought the man was "relieving" himself...Guess that's what the umbrella was for, to hide, or to avoid splashback if it's windy... lol

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    oaktree_brian_1976

    • 01/Sep/2012 03:45:24

    Oh Carol, do you have any pictures from our fine Dominion (Canada)? Your rivals at the UK National Archives posted a whole book worth of stuff recently, and I had a grand old time tagging things there. There was a large Irish immigration wave to Montreal in the 19th century, and a few of them came to Upper Canada as well (Ontario), where I live.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 01/Sep/2012 14:06:13

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] None of Canada posted here to date, unless you think this mystery one might be Canada rather than America. I can ask the staff in our Photographic Archive if we've any definitely Canadian photos, though our rule of thumb is not to post images here unless they're already catalogued...

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    oaktree_brian_1976

    • 01/Sep/2012 14:37:03

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Ok, we'll see what magic you can work! That mystery photo eludes me, typical homestead, could be just about anywhere. If we had a name of one of those in the photo, we could search by census records or some such thing over here.

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    XPAT-Polska

    • 01/Sep/2012 16:11:03

    Wonderful place - this shot is a bit earlier than my image :-) Johnstown Castle - Wexford Taken in May 2012

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 30/Sep/2012 19:11:38

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Very lovely!

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    Caesar1956

    • 05/Feb/2016 19:18:45

    1912: www.flickr.com/photos/vudigitallibrary/4786768546/in/albu...

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 06/Feb/2016 00:08:29

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Thanks for posting.

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    John Spooner

    • 30/Nov/2019 15:38:40

    Is that clock-face? Warder and Dublin Weekly Mail - Saturday 13 July 1833

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    Niall McAuley

    • 20/Dec/2019 10:29:24

    The Fitzgeralds lived in Johnstown Castle around this time. Here is the 1881 birth record for Geraldine Mary, child of Adelaide née Forbes and Maurice Fitzgerald of Johnstown Castle. Here is an entry at thepeerage for Lord Maurice Fitzgerald, 1852-1901, so aged from 8 to 35 in this date range. Definitely a possible subject for the later part of the possible dates. His death in 1901 aged 48 gives the same address.