Unidentified = Queen's College, Cork (now UCC)

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Where: Cork, Ireland

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When: 01 January 1900

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Title in our catalogue was "Unidentified". Thanks to Skink74 for identifying this lovely building as Queen's College, Cork which is now called University College Cork (UCC).

And you should have a look at how beautiful this site was as depicted on the OSI Historic Maps (thank you Niall McAuley).

Date: 1900??


NLI Ref.: L_CAB_04837

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
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    colossal window

    • 27/Jul/2012 08:36:26

    nothing like a haunted image :)

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    TJ.Photography

    • 27/Jul/2012 08:36:49

    well I don't know much about Ireland's geography... but the building reminds me of Ashford castle in Co, Mayo.

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    Cuddly Nutter

    • 27/Jul/2012 08:40:14

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/tj_q8 Def not Ashford Castle but there is a resemblance.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 27/Jul/2012 08:48:24

    Not Ashford Castle! Go south, young men...

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    TJ.Photography

    • 27/Jul/2012 08:50:37

    hmm South? ... Galway?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 27/Jul/2012 08:54:19

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/tj_q8 South-er!

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    TJ.Photography

    • 27/Jul/2012 08:56:00

    lol my geo isnt that good now .... what do we have souther?? ... limerick? cork? hmm clare? ughh ... just visited ireland twice lol

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    Swordscookie

    • 27/Jul/2012 09:11:20

    Looking at the flower/vegetable beds in the foreground it appears to be an horticultural/agricultural establishment or a seminary with leanings in that direction. I don't think I've ever been there and I probably could rule out most of north Munster - Limerick, Clare and north Tipp, but I could be wrong - AGAIN!

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    Skink74

    • 27/Jul/2012 09:28:59

    Queen's (now University) College, Cork?

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    guliolopez

    • 27/Jul/2012 09:30:26

    Too easy lads. That's the quadrangle at UCC in Cork.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 27/Jul/2012 09:35:02

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/skink74 Huzzah, you just pipped http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]! It is indeed UCC, formerly Queen's College Cork... Thanks a million!

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    TJ.Photography

    • 27/Jul/2012 09:37:04

    lol hey! I said Cork!

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    guliolopez

    • 27/Jul/2012 09:38:30

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/skink74] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] Indeed. 80 seconds too late. (If I hadn't taken the time to source my proofs I'd have had my "first"!) :) FYI: By way of confirmation, here's a version of the same image (with visible label on photo).

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    Niall McAuley

    • 27/Jul/2012 09:42:29

    OS 25" link

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    Skink74

    • 27/Jul/2012 09:51:11

    I mainly got it from the resemblance to my old haunt, QUB...

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 27/Jul/2012 09:57:39

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/tj_q8 You did, but also mentioned Limerick and Clare! :D

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 27/Jul/2012 10:00:02

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Next time! Nice to see with the label, but sans Gardener...

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    TJ.Photography

    • 27/Jul/2012 10:00:36

    lol yeh i was trawling the answers lol

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    Swordscookie

    • 27/Jul/2012 10:02:50

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland I was right too! In Limerick we always knew that UCC was a hotbed of agricultural pursuits;-) I must admit it came to mind but while I took part in sports against College I was never on campus!

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 27/Jul/2012 10:10:35

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley That is one beautiful map, Niall, thanks! Isn't it a shame I don't have an accurate location for the Glenariff pic next door... (my idea of a subtle hint)

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 27/Jul/2012 10:28:00

    Had another look at the super duper high-res image and spotted a beehive. Have added some notes on this photo. If it was just a teeny bit clearer, we'd be able to make out all the plants. It'd be amazing to have a record of what was planted there at that time...

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 27/Jul/2012 10:29:50

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/swordscookie A "hotbed of agricultural pursuits"! Do tell... :)

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    TJ.Photography

    • 27/Jul/2012 10:31:58

    If it is beside a college ... I would say then it is a botanical garden (i.e. for studies and research) ... thus I won't emphasize on food products for example... it can be anything. Specially that you marked a sign with some "order". lol do farmers mark their products in orders and families? :)

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    TJ.Photography

    • 27/Jul/2012 10:39:45

    By the way... I was trying to find more info about the order Polycalaceae, but didn't find anything... on Wikipedia however it is suggested as Polygalaceae. Polygalaceae

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 27/Jul/2012 10:50:47

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/tj_q8 Thanks for that. It was a little blurry. Have changed in tags and on note...

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    Swordscookie

    • 27/Jul/2012 10:51:23

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland You're too young for that sort of thing;-)

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    TJ.Photography

    • 27/Jul/2012 10:58:26

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland fáilte romhat :) I'm checking native plants to Ireland of that family (not order, according to wikipedia), seems the most common plant under this family (which can be found in Ireland) is Milkwort.

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    dorameulman

    • 27/Jul/2012 12:14:48

    Brilliant.

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    guliolopez

    • 27/Jul/2012 14:40:08

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/tj_q8] RE: "I would say then it is a botanical garden (i.e. for studies and research) " Agreed. By way of support, to the right and behind the photographer is (was) the biology building. (I say "was" because that building was knocked-down in the early part of the 21st C. Some years after I left UCC myself). It's also worth noting that behind the hedge (on front of the building with the chimneys on the right) is what is still called the "president's garden". The president's office is in that building with the chimneys. The presidents garden is traditionally where staff, class and confering photos were taken. Like this nice one from 1909. These days the larger group photos get taken elsewhere. But it's still traditional for people to get individual and smaller group portraits taken on front of these doors.

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    guliolopez

    • 27/Jul/2012 15:37:20

    FYI. Cork City Library (not quite as salubrious as "library towers", but a great resource none-the less) has quite a few aerial photos of Cork from the 1930s and 1940s. Some taken by the Defence Forces. Others by private companies like "Aerofilms" and the like. AAAANYWAY, here's an aerial photo of the college surrounds from the 1940s. The garden from the NLI photo is the open expanse at the "tip" of the arm of the east wing of the quadrangle. Above the dark area of trees. The biology building (with accompanying greenhouse) is is seen "above" this expanse. (And "below" the church building - which is the Honan chapel). The Honan Chapel is still there. The biology building and greenhouse was demolished in recent decades.

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    ClickKen04

    • 27/Jul/2012 17:48:35

    Carol, I reckon some of the lads here should or could be employed by the an Garda Siochana in detection tasks, because their talents are well justified on here!

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    TJ.Photography

    • 27/Jul/2012 17:49:31

    lol

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    Niall McAuley

    • 27/Jul/2012 20:03:55

    I will be a.w.k. for a while - someone else will have to look up the OS 25" maps for a couple of weeks. I'll correct everyone when I get back :)

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    robinparkes

    • 27/Jul/2012 21:00:55

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland I was concentrating on the 'Glenariff pic next door'. I have the location as close as the map will allow me. I can't believe how close my photo is to the original.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 30/Jul/2012 12:36:07

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/photoken04 You're right, but thankfully they're helping us out instead!

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 30/Jul/2012 12:37:29

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Off gallivanting without so much as a by your leave! Honestly, just can't get the staff these days... :)

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    pellethepoet

    • 31/Oct/2012 15:05:55

    Reproduced in Colm Lincoln's Steps & Steeples : Cork at the Turn of the Century, Dublin : O'Brien Press, 1981, p. 76.