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Where: Waterford, Ireland
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When: 27 July 1929
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Follow the story as it unfolded in the comments below to see what was achieved from scant information in our catalogue, and an incorrect date for this lovely wedding photo...
Date established as Saturday, 27 July 1929; location identified as Rockfield, Tramore, Co. Waterford; all three girls identified as Esther White (or Whyte), Gladys Roche, and Marie Gallwey - bridesmaids at the Gallwey-O'Neill Power wedding!
Think an old Library is entitled to a (very genteel) whoop of joy!
Photographer: A.H. Poole Studo Photographer
Collection: Poole Photographic Collection
Date: Saturday, 27 July 1929
NLI Ref.: POOLEWP 3633
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
Source: Flickr Commons
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Date established as Saturday, 27 July 1929; location identified as Rockfield, Tramore, Co. Waterford; all three girls identified as Esther White (or Whyte), Gladys Roche, and Marie Gallwey - bridesmaids at the Gallwey-O'Neill Power wedding!
Think an old Library is entitled to a (very genteel) whoop of joy!
Photographer: A.H. Poole Studo Photographer
Collection: Poole Photographic Collection
Date: Saturday, 27 July 1929
NLI Ref.: POOLEWP 3633
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The CommonsSource: Flickr Commons
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Swordscookie
Lovely, three happy looking kids with two nice smiles and nice dresses on the three of them The veils are very simple with the flower headdresses.
blackpoolbeach
Are the older girls wearing silk stockings?
Swordscookie
http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpoolbeach I think you're right there, those look like silk stockings to me. I also note on closer scrutiny that the two older girls have similar brooches or pins in their dresses. Probably a gift for playing their part. http://www.flickr.com/photos/69751036@N08 Kevin, as regards the mat/rug/carpet the Poole photographs have many examples of these being laid out to save the footwear and dresses of the participants. Note the young ladies lovely shoes? They were probably being save from the dirt of the lawn and footpath.
Niall McAuley
That doesn't look like the front door at Power Hall, which can be seen in other nli photos here and here.
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[http://www.flickr.com/photos/69751036@N08] Hi Kevin! Yes, as [http://www.flickr.com/photos/swordscookie] swordscookie says, probably to protect their shoes. And mats or rugs are a hallmark of Poole Photographic Studio outdoor photos. This one is very snazzy...
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley So maybe Rockfield in Tramore then, or somewhere else entirely (yes, I know, really helpful contribution on my part)? The pillar, steps and ornate lamp will be our best clues...
DannyM8
Imelda Marcos was born on the same day.
DannyM8
What about this - Date is noted as 27th July, but I think it must be the wedding as described above? Jeanette Phyllis Gallwey was born on 23 January 1884.1 She was the daughter of William Joseph Gallwey and Frances Kate Trelawner Davies.2 She married Bernard O'Neil Power, son of Bernard Patrick Joseph O'Neill Power, on 27 July 1929.1 She died on 13 February 1948 at age 64, without issue.1 From 27 July 1929, her married name became Power. Bernard O'Neil Power was the son of Bernard Patrick Joseph O'Neill Power.2 He married Jeanette Phyllis Gallwey, daughter of William Joseph Gallwey and Frances Kate Trelawner Davies, on 27 July 1929.1 He died on 13 April 1958.1 He lived at Lyndhurst, Greystones, County Wicklow, Ireland.1 Note She was 45 when they married.
DannyM8
Carol - there must be something in the IT archive about this wedding but no subscription here.
DannyM8
Jeanette Gallwey Census 1911 at 27 years. No Father in the house but her Mother still noted as wife not widow so perhaps the father is away? They were at Church Road Tramore. There is a William J. in the search as head of Family but he is not on the actual form. Note Mother is COI wheras the two Daughters are Catholic. ( Jeanette is in the index as Jeanneth )
DannyM8
This is the Gallwey 1901 Census but no Jeanette and No Mother, father is noted as a JP and a Wine Merchant There is another Gallwey family also wine merchants on church road.
DannyM8
I see a Gallweys Hill on the Tramore Map off Church Street.
DannyM8
Here is a Bernard O'Neill Power with a Nicholas O'N P from the 1911 Census But they are from Galway not Kilkenny Above would tie in with this extract from Headstones: WICKLOW, Redford (Catholic) Cemetery, Greystones, Co.Wicklow, Part 4 Ireland Genealogy Projects Archives No.583 In Loving Memory | of | JEANNETTE O'NEILL-POWER | who died 13th February 1948 | and | BERNARD O'NEILL-POWER | died 13th April 1958. | NICHOLAS O'NEILL-POWER | who died 3rd November 1966. | R.I.P. If we Have the right man he would have been 53 when he married. So all in all a late blooming romance.
DannyM8
This is I think Bernards Family census for 1901 Nicholas is there and Bernard Senior is correct but our man was not at home! They are in Mount Hazel Galway
Swordscookie
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/47290943@N03] Carol this photostream is a source of great entertainment, enlightenment and joy for many people and your last three photographs have demonstrated this most effectively. Below is a link to a set of photographs that really demonstrates the power of images to educate and enlighten. I was quite moved by them and it gives a new perspective on the power of these media and of photography. www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-18489694
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/swordscookie You're right, Sean. They're lovely photos in and of themselves, but it's the stories that make them. James and Mr Elephant is my favourite. Think we all need a Mr Elephant sometimes: "If Mr Elephant goes somewhere that James fears, James is more likely to follow suit. James won't hold hands with people, so Mr Elephant can go in the middle to connect James with other people in his world."
blackpoolbeach
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/79549245@N06] This story is interweaving with that of Patrick Joseph Gallwey www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/6933777014 There were 2 different Frances GALLWEY in Tramore. Here is the wife of William GALLWEY. 1901 census, 26 Circus, Bath, Somerset Phyllis DAVIES, Head, Widow, 88, Living on own means, born in Devon, Ugborough Frances K GALLWEY, Daughter, Married, 47, Living on own means, born in Yorkshire, Adlingfleet Jannette P GALLWEY, Granddaughter, Single, 17, Living on own means, born in Ireland plus 5 female servants, all born in Somerset. www.freebmd.org.uk Marriage, March quarter 1883, Bath William Joseph GALLWEY and Frances Kate T DAVIES thepeerage.com/p39134.htm Frances Kate Trelawner DAVIES was the daughter of Reverend Edward William Lewis DAVIES. She married William Joseph GALLWEY, son of Henry Gallwey and Maria Walsh, on 25 January 1883. She died on 29 March 1938. Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958 Frances K T GALLWEY died in Waterford district, 1938. Rockfield House can be seen on Bing Maps and Google Street View
blackpoolbeach
Here is the unsmiling wedding group photo on NLI Catalogue Those cloche hats are not flattering.
Swordscookie
http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpoolbeach You're right, that lot would curdle the milk. I'm glad the kids found something to smile about above.
DannyM8
http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpoolbeach whats your call on the date, Carol gives 2nd whereas the web says 27th July 1929. It is undoubedly the same Marriage. It is hard to believe there were 2 Gallwey - O'Neill Power weddings within 3 weeks in 1929!
ofarrl
There are still Gallways living at Rockfield I believe. Darryl Gallway lived there in the 1980's and was involved with Waterford Liqueurs who produced a drink similar to Bailys called Waterford Cream which in my opinion tasted a lot better. Waterford Liqueurs was bought out by Irish Distillers some years ago.
DannyM8
http://www.flickr.com/photos/33577523@N08 I remember the drink well.
blackpoolbeach
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/79549245@N06] The 1911 census has both Bernard and Nicholas transcribed as "Gen L" (General Labourer), but the original looks like "Gent". There is something hidden behind the paywall for Wednesday 10th July 1929 in the Irish Times when searching for "marriage Gallwey O'Neill Power".
dancinanne
It looks like Rockfield House which is on Church Road Tramore.
Niall McAuley
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32348235@N00 Do you mean that you've been there and it looks like it, or you've seen pictures and it looks like it?
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Right, finally had a chance to trawl the newspapers! Under COURT AND PERSONAL in the Irish Times, Wednesday, 10th July 1929: "The marriage arranged between Bernard O'Neill Power and Jeanette Gallwey will take place quietly at Tramore on Saturday, 27th July." And from the Munster Express, Friday, 2nd August 1929: "The wedding took place on Saturday at Tramore of Mr. Bernard O'Neill Power, Co. Galway, to Miss Jeanette Gallwey, eldest daughter of the late Mr. Wm. Gallwey, Rockfields, Tramore. Very Rev. Canon Walsh, P.P., performed the ceremony with Nuptial Mass and Papal Blessing. Mr. O'Neill Power, brother of the bridegroom was best man, and the bride was attended by Miss Roche, Woodville, New Ross, and Miss Gallwey, Woodands Woodlands?, Faithleg, Waterford. The reception was held at Rocklands, Tramore. The bridegroom is cousin of Capt. John O'Neill, Snowhill, Co. Kilkenny." And most usefully for our purposes here, the photo above appeared in the Sunday Independent, on 4th August 1929, saying: "Pretty bridesmaids at the wedding of Mr. Bernard O'Neill Power and Miss Jeanette Gallwey, at Tramore. Left to right - Miss Esther White, Miss Gladys Roche, and Miss Marie Gallwey."
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Thank you all so much for this one! We (99% you!) achieved a perfect hat trick. We established a correct date for this photo, identified the location and the people... :)
DannyM8
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Like your Tags Carol.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/79549245@N06 Idea shamelessly stolen from discussion on Location Hunters, although not really shamelessly since I announced intention there to "borrow" the idea! :D Should have done it from the very start, and we'd have a fantastic idea of how many mysteries have been solved... And thanks for all of your hard work on this one!
blackpoolbeach
"The reception was held at Rocklands, Tramore". Not Rockfield? We are not finished yet.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpoolbeach Oh no!! Do you think that might just have been a typo? They say Rockfields further up. Although, just found one of our Poole photos (not digitised) was commissioned by a Mr Hand of Rocklands, Tramore...
Niall McAuley
There is indeed a Rocklands as well as a Rockfield in Tramore. Something to do with all those rocks, I suppose.
blackpoolbeach
Rocklands not visible on Google Street View, so here is the aerial photo until the new Google "look through the curtains" photos arrive.
dancinanne
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley yes i know it well -not just from photos .I was actually in it years ago .I would call it the finest house in Tramore ..By the way I live in Rocklands which is off PoND rOADat the other side of the town .
DannyM8
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32348235@N00 http://www.flickr.com/photos/32348235@N00 http://www.flickr.com/photos/32348235@N00 http://www.flickr.com/photos/32348235@N00 http://www.flickr.com/photos/32348235@N00 Well Done. So it is indeed Rockfield. Carol you were correct all along!
Niall McAuley
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32348235@N00 That's excellent, thanks!
desmondpryan
I think that Esther was a Whyte.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/125793821@N07 We agree, please do tell more?
desmondpryan
Esther Whyte was born 1917, so the age in the photo is about right. Her mother Magda was a Grehan of Clonmeen, co. Cork and married a Whyte of Loughbrickland. Magda's sister Aileen was a great friend of Gwendoline Gallwey, the bride's younger but already married (to a Roche of Woodville, New Ross) sister, who is perhaps the mother of Gladys Roche in the photo. Marie Gallwey (b. 1917) would have been Jeannette's niece, dau. of her brother Henry William. My best guesses, for what they're worth. But thanks for the photo, and for the background research.
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[https://www.flickr.com/photos/125793821@N07] Desmond, thanks for your comment. I have added below a number of links to our catalogue which I believe are photos from the same wedding, I do hope you enjoy them. Mary catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000594253 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000594267 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000594255 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000594257 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000594256 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000594258 There may be a few duplicates.
desmondpryan
Very interesting - thanks again.
Tintin et Milou
Freckle city! :)
desmondpryan
Notice some recent attention to the photo - perhaps also time for correct spelling of Esther Whyte on the photo and the second para.?
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/125793821@N07 - Done :)
Niall McAuley
Marriage record for that date here