A rather wooden group having scones, butter and jam at the Glencar Tea House, Co. Leitrim (despite the fact that it says Sligo on the glass negative!).
After some years of looking at this, and prompted by more recent inputs from conor65 and Niall McAuley (and a nearby/related image), our intrepid Photo Detectives propose that this is the Sibbery family. Niall proposes that it could be Margaret Jane Sibbery, her husband Robert, and two of their children....
Probably were under instruction to keep still for a minute or so.
Jack Falstaff
26/Dec/2011 14:43:05
Now those two ladies look suspiciously like mother and daughter, so could this be the propietor's family posing for an all-important publicity post-card? Sunday clothes, mother to anwer to if they don't get it right..... it's no wonder the poor things look wooden. And, Oh I do hope father didn't step on his nice new billy-cock hat when he got up!
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
26/Dec/2011 15:15:35
Well, I guess http://www.flickr.com/photos/govert1970 is right, posing for a while didn't exactly make for spontaneous snapshots, but maybe you're right too http://www.flickr.com/photos/jack_falstaff. Maybe they weren't resting tourists! And thanks for billycock! Didn't know that was what these hats were called. Apparently also bombín in Spanish speaking parts...
Jack Falstaff
26/Dec/2011 16:27:02
You're welcome, Carol. It was also known as a Derby in the USA, but more generally in the UK (when Jack was a lad, which is a long time ago) as a Bowler (after the name of the original makers) and,much more rarely if memory serves, as a Coke Hat (because it was created in the mid-nineteenth century for Edward Coke, brother of the Earl of Leicester).
Christine Rose..,
26/Dec/2011 19:19:48
Charming scene would be great foe a publicity shot.
australex
27/Dec/2011 03:27:21
Beautiful outside act of life with house, thanks for show it.
Indeed [https://www.flickr.com/photos/159258285@N07] - we had a discussion about this photo in Library Towers at the time, and we think it is connected to the existing/remaining teashop(or teashed?) which is still apparently in the area. And so that's where we mapped the image. Do you have any insights into who the proprietor may have been?
Niall McAuley
25/Jan/2018 10:12:30
I think [https://www.flickr.com/photos/159258285@N07] is right. Prompted by todays image up the road:
I wondered if the census can shed any light.
From the 25" location on GeoHive, I can flip to the 6" and see that the teahouse is in Largandoon.
Guess how many families lived in Largandoon in 1901?
Just one! They are still there in 1911.
There is a good chance that this is Margaret Jane Sibbery, her husband Robert, and two of their children.
As for a date, the youngest Sibbery, Richard, was six in 1901, we are not much later than that.
There are only 4 years between the eldest boy Henry and his older sister Emily Jane, so it is not him. I think the earliest likely pair are David and Emily Jane with 12 years difference, meaning this is earliest 1890.
Niall McAuley
25/Jan/2018 10:20:05
And the modern tea shed is run by one Helen Siberry!Helen's original home farm household also sits on the site where in the late 1800's to early 1900's a Tea House already existed, ran by Helen's great Aunts.
Niall McAuley
25/Jan/2018 10:28:25
I just pinged her on twitter to take a look.
Niall McAuley
25/Jan/2018 10:30:14
Another shot (Margaret Jane is in the same outfit...):
Michiel2005
Probably were under instruction to keep still for a minute or so.
Jack Falstaff
Now those two ladies look suspiciously like mother and daughter, so could this be the propietor's family posing for an all-important publicity post-card? Sunday clothes, mother to anwer to if they don't get it right..... it's no wonder the poor things look wooden. And, Oh I do hope father didn't step on his nice new billy-cock hat when he got up!
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Well, I guess http://www.flickr.com/photos/govert1970 is right, posing for a while didn't exactly make for spontaneous snapshots, but maybe you're right too http://www.flickr.com/photos/jack_falstaff. Maybe they weren't resting tourists! And thanks for billycock! Didn't know that was what these hats were called. Apparently also bombín in Spanish speaking parts...
Jack Falstaff
You're welcome, Carol. It was also known as a Derby in the USA, but more generally in the UK (when Jack was a lad, which is a long time ago) as a Bowler (after the name of the original makers) and,much more rarely if memory serves, as a Coke Hat (because it was created in the mid-nineteenth century for Edward Coke, brother of the Earl of Leicester).
Christine Rose..,
Charming scene would be great foe a publicity shot.
australex
Beautiful outside act of life with house, thanks for show it.
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57577298@N02 You are very welcome!
looking thru rose colored glasses
Nice.
XPAT-Polska
A lovely shot, even if it is wooden looking.
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47044499@N03 And lovely to hear from you again! You haven't been around for a while, I don't think?
conor65
Is the the SIBERRY Tea House at Glencar?
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Indeed [https://www.flickr.com/photos/159258285@N07] - we had a discussion about this photo in Library Towers at the time, and we think it is connected to the existing/remaining teashop(or teashed?) which is still apparently in the area. And so that's where we mapped the image. Do you have any insights into who the proprietor may have been?
Niall McAuley
I think [https://www.flickr.com/photos/159258285@N07] is right. Prompted by todays image up the road:
I wondered if the census can shed any light.
From the 25" location on GeoHive, I can flip to the 6" and see that the teahouse is in Largandoon.
Guess how many families lived in Largandoon in 1901?
Just one! They are still there in 1911.
There is a good chance that this is Margaret Jane Sibbery, her husband Robert, and two of their children.
As for a date, the youngest Sibbery, Richard, was six in 1901, we are not much later than that.
There are only 4 years between the eldest boy Henry and his older sister Emily Jane, so it is not him. I think the earliest likely pair are David and Emily Jane with 12 years difference, meaning this is earliest 1890.
Niall McAuley
And the modern tea shed is run by one Helen Siberry! Helen's original home farm household also sits on the site where in the late 1800's to early 1900's a Tea House already existed, ran by Helen's great Aunts.
Niall McAuley
I just pinged her on twitter to take a look.
Niall McAuley
Another shot (Margaret Jane is in the same outfit...):
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Excellent - Thanks https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley. I've updated the text to reflect!