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Where: Leinster, County Wexford, Ireland
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The Redmond family have a long history in Wexford and their patriotism can hardly be doubted though to all intents and purposes their role is almost erased from history. After visiting Wexford during the past few years I must admit that I wasn't aware of the existence of this obelisk though I may have passed it many times.
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Collection: Eason Photographic Collection
Date: between 1900-1939
NLI Ref: EAS_3796
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Photographer: Unknown
Collection: Eason Photographic Collection
Date: between 1900-1939
NLI Ref: EAS_3796
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Niall McAuley
Streetview. Marked on the 25" (1900ish), but not surrounded by the little Redmond Square park at the time.
Niall McAuley
Dates from 1867, per the NIAH. It now has: inscribed panels listing members of the Redmond political dynasty including (clockwise): John Edward Redmond MP (1806-65) of The Deeps (cf. 15703742); Captain William Archer Redmond MP (1886-1932); William Archer Redmond MP (1825-80) of Ballytrent House (cf. 15704850); Major William "Willie" Redmond MP (1861-1917); and John Edward Redmond MP (1856-1918), Chairman of the Parnellite Minority (fl. 1891-1900) and Chairman of the Irish Parliamentary Party (fl. 1900-18). though obviously not all of that was present in 1867.
suckindeesel
Google Earth Link earth.app.goo.gl/rFEfkp #googleearth
Niall McAuley
I seem to remember that the WR&S pics in the Eason collection were acquired early in the date range, mabe before 1905?
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Mr French / Lawrence was also there; spot the differences! - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000337813 [Edit] - Hint - no horse trough!
Niall McAuley
In L_CAB_02064 from French/Lawrence, we can see that the pub is called Doyle & Nolan, and the licensee is Patrick Doyle.
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
"The Redmond Family and Wexford" 1912 newspaper article, via Trove - trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/108035777
Niall McAuley
Doyle P. (Doyle & Nolan) appears in Basset's 1885 street directory.
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Mr French was in Wexford in June 1904. Perhaps Mr William Ritchie & Son visited soon after? Can anyone read the sign on the horse-trough?! https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/51338294876/
Niall McAuley
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia The Eason also has a great big shed to the right of the monument, which appears on the 25" and later Cassini, so I think it is safe to say the Eason is later.
Niall McAuley
As for the Redmonds being forgotten, I think this is because our modern conception of an independent Ireland draws on the 1916 Rising rather than on the Parnellite's constitutional efforts. The fact that the Redmonds called for Irishmen to sign up and fight for the British in WW1 in the hopes of earning gratitude and support for Home Rule in Westminster doesn't endear them to many today, either.
Niall McAuley
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia L_CAB_02062 shows the construction of the railway along the quays in Wexford, completed 1892, so French was in town earlier, too.
John Spooner
The beginnings of D & N. Wexford People - Saturday 23 November 1878
John Spooner
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley The Nolan was Felix Nolan. Mr Doyle, the senior partner, died in 1890 (or not long before), and the licence was transferred to Felix Nolan (as reported in Wexford People - Saturday 8 March 1890). Felix Nolan was still proprietor
at leastuntil 1911. The establishment still advertised itself as Doyle & Nolan. (advert in Free Press (Wexford) - Saturday 7 January 1911) Felix Nolan disposed of his Wexford business in May 1911, and auctioned off his entire stock, furniture, and shop fittings. At the same time (May 1911) Thomas Nolan successfully applied for the transfer of the licence hitherto in the name of Felix Nolan, and J Nolan announced that he had transferred the Doyle & Nolan victualling business (best beef and mutton) to premises at 16 Selskar Street.John Spooner
A Felix Nolan died in June 1912. His age at death quoted in his obituary in Free Press (Wexford) on Saturday 15 June 1912 (59) doesn't quite match his age in the 1911 census (60), but does match his age in the 1901 census (48). He was described as "a gentleman well-known in both farming circles and in the business life of the town of Wexford". The clincher IMO is that one of the chief mourners was Thomas Nolan of Redmond Place, as well as sons John and Joseph Nolan.
suckindeesel
The church spire in the background has to belong to The Church of the Immaculate Conception (1858)
Niall McAuley
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner] Death record of Felix Nolan in 1912. Farmer, 59, son Joseph present. And here is Patrick Doyle, Grocer, 39, in Feb 1890.