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A Paddle Steamer churning up the water as it moves past "Curripinny" in Crosshaven, County Cork. That must have been a wonderful sight to see when Mr. French took the shot? There are people at the stern there so was this a passenger or day trip event and what was/is that large institutional style building on the far shore?
Photographer: Robert French
Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection
Date: Circa 1865 - 1914
NLI Ref: L_ROY_06251
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Photographer: Robert French
Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection
Date: Circa 1865 - 1914
NLI Ref: L_ROY_06251
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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O Mac
Curraghbinny. Streetview. maps.app.goo.gl/ks4yMY2ZzsuZj3i59
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
That terrace, 'The Terrace', gave me the dejas. Previously, but later with Mr O'Connor - https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/40059972413/
suckindeesel
The latest building is the one on the right, c.1900 www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/20987... Starting from the left, we have: The Western Villa, The Terrace, The Manor House and The Eastern Villas
Deirge (Del)
There was a regularish boat service around Cork Harbour broadly speaking around and before the start of the 20th century which supplemented and competed with the railways. One steamer terminus was at Crosshaven from where this photo was taken (Crosshaven was also the terminus of the Cork Passage and Blackrock Railway) and after the Curraghbinny pier in the picture the boat would go to (or from) Ring, Spike Island, Queenstown (Cobh) or Aghada according to the back cover of (Jenkins/Newham, 1993, 0-85361-4059) DB McNeill also covers the history of the steamers; which from memory has a little complexity. I'm sure I've also come across the steamer timetables somewhere. In the end the (road) buses took over.
Niall McAuley
Fairly nearby, L_ROY_06243 was previously dated at 1897-1903:
suckindeesel
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/47290943@N03/] I wonder if it was one of these paddle steamers? passagemuseum.ie/the-green-boats.html Pity that the name can’t be resolved at this resolution
Deirge (Del)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Yes what the NLI referred to as a large ''Institutional-type'' building seems (unless there are skeletons or a bigger story ) to be 'simply' a row of 'interesting late 19th century terraced houses called 'The Terrace' with a manor house to the right and villas a little further to either side. NIAH information can be obtained by going to the manor house link and to the (Historic Environment Viewer) Map from that page.
Niall McAuley
https://www.flickr.com/photos/184711311@N04 I can't make out the name of the steamer, but it looks like 9 letters long to me. The only one in that article is Rostellan
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"VICTORIA"
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
The PS 'ALBERT' is the one on that site's headline -
See - passagemuseum.ie/the-green-boats.html
Deirge (Del)
My best guess was PS Monkstown or PS Glenbrook. McNeill can be borrowed from open library here. I feel sure I've seen more on steamers ... Maybe Creedon's scrapbooks or another source.
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
No, not the 'Victoria' (1852-1885) according to another website, tinyurl.com/4wnnzjba ...
There were two 'Alberts'. The one in the photo above is from 1881, and a very similar style to today's photo. Leaning towards 'GLENBROOK' which stopped in 1903 ... , or 'MONKSTOWN'. It's complicated!suckindeesel
https://flic.kr/p/2oB6zAC ‘Monkstown’ Similar, anyway?
Niall McAuley
seeing those names, I think the blurry text best matches MONKSTOWN
Deirge (Del)
Back on land if ye venture into the Corra Binne woods ye may come across something surprising ... courtesey of Canada!
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
So I have gone cross-eyed from looking at Lawrence Crosshaven photos. Nothing to improve on the paddle steamer question, but ... Mr French / Lawrence visited at least twice as usual. A similar later view shows a bigger cabin on the pier, and creeperier houses - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000331576 A reverse view showing the bigger cabin looking rusty - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000331560 One of the steamers at Crosshaven Pier with a small shed - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000335568 The 'Albert' at Crosshaven Pier with a larger shed (ie later). Of interest 'cos there is a fellow wearing a sousaphone, invented in 1893 - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000318419 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000331558 One for the trainspotters: a three-rail railway line at Drake's Pool - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000331552 compared to catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000318406 And Mr O'Connor on board one of the steamers with a crowd of grumpies (one of several photos) - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000298925 going to Cobh - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000298925
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32162360@N00/ A ‘guard’ or ‘check’ rail to prevent derailment in a dangerous location