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The idea in this day and age of using a railway carriage as a vehicle for display of products and goods would sound like a Pink Elephant? Yet here we are a mere 55 years ago Bowater had a huge piece of rolling stock adapted and prepared to demonstrate their products to would be buyers. The distinctive nose of the VW Beetle poking out adds an additional element of travel to the image!

Photographer: James P. O'Dea

Collection:James P. O'Dea

Date: October 28 1967

NLI Ref.: ODEA 52/2

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 05/May/2023 07:58:19

    BCI 239 ? (I can't find my glasses!) 28 October 1968 was a Monday ... 28 October 1967 was a Saturday ...

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 05/May/2023 08:15:25

    The internet is sometimes AMAZING! "beetle.ie - Ireland’s first ever census on classic Irish aircooled VWs" - beetle.ie/vehicle/bci-239/

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/May/2023 08:47:32

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Incredible! The O'Dea shot is listed as Athy in the catalogue, that Beetle page says: It was parked at the side of a garage in Monastervin, County Kildare. in the mid 80s, 20 years later, just 20km up the road.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/May/2023 08:56:55

    The Streetview shows that the layout at Athy is very simple now, just twin tracks straight through, but on the 25" it was more complex, with Cattle pens West of the line and track to the Goods shed at left/East. There was a section with buffers behind the surviving water tank. I think that is where the Bowater carriage was pictured, given the points in the foreground.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 05/May/2023 08:57:29

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Incredible is right!!

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/May/2023 08:58:37

    ACI 1 to ZCI 999 (Jul 1960 – Apr 1981) so BCI 239 being 1962 is very plausible.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/May/2023 09:05:09

    Bowater not only had a coach, they had a whole light railway in Kent!

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 05/May/2023 09:17:40

    For anyone interested - the above find is a classic example of using inverted commas ("quotes") in a search engine, in this case with Google. BCI 239 vw search produced nothing very interseting or relevant. Insert the quotes and more specific results happen "BCI 239" vw . And luck is required!

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    Oretani Wildlife (Mike Grimes)

    • 05/May/2023 09:19:29

    Since it's in Athy then, there was a company called Bowaters Irish Board Mills located in Athy.

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    O Mac

    • 05/May/2023 09:20:20

    Bowater factory today.. maps.app.goo.gl/tdXDV4YocG5JLxUz9 Bowater made hardboard.. www.athyphotos.gallery/bowaters.html

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/May/2023 10:09:29

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/91549360@N03 From that photo page; "A further expansion scheme completed in 1966 trebled the capacity of the Athy mills in the space of 15 years", so booming at the time.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/May/2023 10:18:59

    Streetview of the site of Bowaters mills, marked as Leinster Reinforcements on Google maps now. A half-assed google search suggests The company began trading on 8 April 2004

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    Deirge (Del)

    • 05/May/2023 12:49:47

    I've has a not particularly successful attempt at trying to identify the coach. It's a bogie coach with 8 wheels with gangway(s) at the end. It is a brake coach where the guard has lookout things on the coach side (I forget the rightful name for things). It's quite similar to no. 853, part of a group 851-856 built in 1902 for the Great Southern and Western Railway. these were gas lit on introduction. The IRRS or someone from it may have more details. If I find out anything in a few months time I'll post it then.

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    suckindeesel

    • 05/May/2023 12:53:16

    Niall McAuley I think Bowaters closed down in the mid 70s. Athy was once an industrial town but has suffered tremendous lob losses with the closures of Minch Norton (malt for Guinness), Tegral (originally asbestos roof products, then roof tiles), Coca Cola plant (concentrate) and of course Bowaters

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 05/May/2023 13:07:18

    that is amazing. We find a little bit of a Beetle and end up with the entire car. Flickroonies are just the bestest!

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 05/May/2023 13:59:44

    The Oh Dear O'Dea Limerick A limerick instead of a sonnet, Shakespeare would wish that he'd Donne it - Back then in '67 Photography heaven Was a glimpse of some Volkswagen Bonnet.

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    Terry_NYorks

    • 05/May/2023 23:12:25

    NLI Curator … …: Welcome back to the Clerestory Coach Group and thank you for sharing this interesting photo with the Group, together with all your other relevant contributions … …., to date.
    For other relevant images of all Irish stock in the Clerestory Group click here … … of which these click here... ... are mapped with Flickr's 2015 group mapping functionality, provided always the underlying Flickr mapping has taken place.

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    doravelasquezosorio

    • 06/May/2023 11:51:37

    Me trae buenos recuerdos