Men Man the Machines while Women Work the Weed

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While "Goodbody's Tobacco Factory" might have been a thriving business in it's time today it would be the opposite! An interesting scene with mounds of dried tobacco leaf on the floor, women sitting and apparently stripping the leaf from the stalks while the men man the machines.

Photographer: Thomas H. Mason

Collection: Mason Photographic Collection

Date: 1890 - 1910

NLI Ref: M6/26

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    CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY

    • 14/Mar/2023 08:37:49

    My dear departed father succumbed to lung cancer, in 1992. Think of how many millions of people have suffered since it was first discovered it could be smoked or chewed. Damned sad.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 14/Mar/2023 08:39:05

    Tobacco grown in Ireland ?

    The Times, 9 Oct 1905 ~ At a special meeting of the Irish Industrial Development Association Mr. R.E. Goodbody made an interesting statement about the Irish tobacco crop for 1905. In company with an American expert, he had just visited Randlestown, Navan, where Colonel Everard had ten acres under process of saving. He had never seen so good a yield in any country, and the expert was of the same opinion. The yield of the ten acres was three times as great as that from a twenty plot last year. The tobacco was a little slow in saving but smoked very well. More than 3,000 hands were employed in Irish tobacco factories.
    See - www.navanhistory.ie/index.php?page=tobacco

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 14/Mar/2023 08:56:32

    Sixteen photos of Goodbody's in the NLI catalogue. Electric lights in evidence; looking 1910-ish more than 1890-ish - catalogue.nli.ie/Search/Results?lookfor=Goodbody%27s+Toba...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 14/Mar/2023 09:05:04

    Prior to independence there had been two leading southern Irish firms, Goodbody’s and Carroll’s. The Goodbody tobacco operation had moved, along with its workers, to the South Circular Road (the site of the later Players-Wills factory) when its Tullamore factory burnt down in 1886. The Dublin factory registered an employment level of 320 in 1908, and was described at the time as much larger than Carroll’s of Dundalk. Some Déja vu here, I think we were discussing Greenville Tobacco Manufactory not so long ago.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 14/Mar/2023 09:15:59

    Flickr amazes! Cigarette card c. 1900 via [https://www.flickr.com/photos/44841559@N03/] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/44841559@N03/49802464988/] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esme_Beringer [https://www.flickr.com/photos/44841559@N03/49803321512/]

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    Niall McAuley

    • 14/Mar/2023 09:20:23

    The Player Wills factory is here in Streetview, but not on the 1900ish 25 inch, and dates from the 20s. The Greenville Tobacco and Snuff Manufactory was nearby, not the exact same site, and is now the White Swan Business Centre

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    Niall McAuley

    • 14/Mar/2023 09:25:02

    I count 184 people in the 1911 census with Tobacco in their Occupation - some are salseman, but many are Tobacco Spinner, Tobacco Lapper, Tobacco Factory Hand etc.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 14/Mar/2023 09:49:12

    45 "Tobacco Spinner" 35 with "Tobacco Factory" 10 "Tobacco Worker" On the sex ratio, 11 of 45 Spinners were women, 10 of them single and in their 20s. 14 of the 35 "Tobacco Factory" matches were women, all single and in their teens or 20s.

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    Architecture of Dublin

    • 14/Mar/2023 10:31:19

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodbody_Stockbrokers

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    John Spooner

    • 14/Mar/2023 11:00:07

    Apropos the men:women ratio, in 1883 Goodbody's employed 140 men and 9 women. (From statistics published in connection with the Cork Exhibition in the Midland Tribune - Thursday 27 September 1883)

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    Niall McAuley

    • 14/Mar/2023 12:57:28

    I note that the 1900 cigarette card references Grenville cigarettes, and the factory is marked as Greenville on the OSI.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 14/Mar/2023 13:15:21

    On the 1830s 6 inch, there is a smaller cotton factory at the North end of the site, and a house named Green Ville to the South.

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    Dún Laoghaire Micheál

    • 14/Mar/2023 16:36:51

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley "Goodbody ... moved ... when its Tullamore factory burnt down in 1886. ". Was the cause ever discovered? Someone using the company product perhaps?

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    Dún Laoghaire Micheál

    • 14/Mar/2023 16:46:21

    Untitled-1_29.psd

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    suckindeesel

    • 14/Mar/2023 22:50:27

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/30369211@N00/ I remember visiting Player’s factory for a tour about 60+ years ago. One of the older youths worked there and organised the visit, things were much simpler to arrange in those times. I suppose it would be considered very politically incorrect by today’s standards. My only recollection is of the 2-ft long cigarettes which were then cut into regular lengths.

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    suckindeesel

    • 14/Mar/2023 22:56:13

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/47290943@N03/ “while the men man the machines”. Even the language is unintentionally infused with sexism. From what I can see on YouTube this process is still traditionally performed by women and appears to be the process f stripping the stem from the leaf.

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    nlpnt

    • 15/Mar/2023 02:29:04

    On a related manufacturing note one of my other Flickr contacts has a collection of photos of the Ford plant in Cork, one of which appeared next to this in my "Following" feed. Album is here; www.flickr.com/photos/ifhp97/albums/72177720306114467

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    Seoirse Ó Dúic - an duine Phléimeanach

    • 15/Mar/2023 20:07:13

    John Perry Goodbody, the owner of Bannatynes Flour Mill in Limerick (later Ranks) on the Dock Road and independent member of Seanad Éireann from 1922 to 1928, died on 21 March 1952. J, Bannatyne's & Sons is a striking silo of great significance to the industrial (and maritime) heritage of Limerick City and the employment of concrete as a building material to quite breathtaking effects. The vertical emphasis articulated by the bay piers and the lack of fenestration reinforces the presence of the structure on the Dock Road. It, along with Bannatyne's Italianate corn store further west, are among the most important industrial buildings to survive in Limerick City. A particular case could be made for the conversion of the silo to an alternative civic use. There is also a striking pyramid in St. Muchin's graveyard, which is the Bannatyne mausoleum. Raised limestone square-plan pyramidal mausoleum, erected c. 1855, located within the grounds of Saint Munchin's Church of Ireland churchyard. Composed of tapering smooth ashlar limestone, laid in overlapping courses, with cement pointing. Rock-faced limestone pedestal with name plaque reading 'Bannatyne' in high relief on east elevation. A bold and confident version of the pyramidal shaped mausoleum. It is adapted to reduce the risk of water infiltration. It is of historical significance as it is the family vault of prominent grain merchants, the Bannatynes. This monumental Victorian form reflects the industrial base of the family’s wealth.

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    • 16/Mar/2023 04:05:14

    Great job! Everything is good in it! Excellent light and composition! Congratulations on Explore! Have a nice day!!!

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    • 16/Mar/2023 06:43:52

    Sehr schönes Foto.

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