The Builder, the Crew and The Son!
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A builder and his building crew pose for a photo by Mr. Poole Junior and the builder holds his son and heirs hand outside their latest project. This brings back memories of buildings and especially building sites with wooden scaffolding, wooden barrels full of water, buckets full of water and cement being pulled up on a line to those at the top and tradesmen clambering about putting things together to create homes and business premises.
Photographer: A. H. Poole
Collection: Poole Photographic Studio, Waterford
Date: 4th January 1928
NLI Ref: POOLEWP 3476
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Photographer: A. H. Poole
Collection: Poole Photographic Studio, Waterford
Date: 4th January 1928
NLI Ref: POOLEWP 3476
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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4 January 1928 was a Wednesday ...
derangedlemur
It's a peculiar design, with no windows on the first floor except for the landing
derangedlemur
It could be this one if a) they changed their mind and stuck a few windows in and b) it's flipped (or they changed their mind about the end gable window as well) goo.gl/maps/MmKm6BDpFWGLkSoy7
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
https://www.flickr.com/photos/8468254@N02 It is peculiar now that you say it. It would be fun to find the actual house today!
derangedlemur
The roof's the right size - 15 high and 17 across.
derangedlemur
Only just noticed the link didn't copy into my previous post; It's there now. (Passive voice obvs. - In no way was I responsible for this outrage.)
John Spooner
Patrick? "Mr Patrick Cantwell. Mooncooin, building contractor" gave evidence at an enquiry into the death of Maurice Flanagan, who was under his supervision, and who had died following a fall from scaffolding. Perhaps Maurice is in the photo. (Waterford Standard - Saturday 10 October 1936). Then there's Nicholas
(Waterford Standard - Saturday 04 December 1937) Or perhaps Lawrence (New Ross Standard - Saturday 26 March 1966)John Spooner
Both obits mention the work of Cantwells all over the south of Ireland, so no need to confine our search for the house to Mooncoin. Or Kilkenny, for that matter..
derangedlemur
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner] Good point - I hadn't noticed that. The one I've found is contemporaneous, and one of them may be a copy of the other. www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/12328...
Dún Laoghaire Micheál
Very posed group. Most of the builders in the photo are holding tools that are unrelated to their position on the building
derangedlemur
I think it is Ballytarsney House. The roof, landing and end windows are an exact match. While it's possible that they built a second one alike in every respect but having more windows in it, I think it's more likely that they found this one a bit dingy and knocked a few windows through.
John Spooner
4th January 1928 - Poole & Co had 2 identical adverts in the Waterford Standard that day, on page 4 & 6
John Spooner
https://www.flickr.com/photos/8468254@N02 I don't know if this is relevant. An advert for Harvey & Son, house & insurance agent of Waterford in the Waterford Standard on Saturday 16 August 1930 included this among their list of what was on offer: "HOUSE at Ballytarsney. Mooncoin (seven rooms, just rebuilt, with garage and garden" (without a closing parenthesis)
Niall McAuley
Being a builder often runs in families: here in the 1911 census in Mooncoin is Nicholas Cantwell, Carpenter, and his son Patrick likewise, 24 at that time. Lawrence is 15 and a scholar.
Niall McAuley
I would not be shocked if the three gentlemen are Nicholas, Patrick and Lawrence with a grandson.
Niall McAuley
Patrick married Margaret Brennan in Feb 1925, best man Lawrence. Nicholas and Patrick both listed as builders. The lad looks older than 3 though.
derangedlemur
https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner The place was built originally after 1911, and as per this shot, in 1928. I reckon "just rebuilt" is ghetto slang for "stuck a load of much needed windows into the dank and gloomy 1st floor and removed all the things the original owner didn't want passers-by to see." In fairness, Ballytarsney is composed pretty much entirely of houses that could have done with rebuilding in 1930.
Niall McAuley
Their sister Mary Cantwell married Thomas O'Brien, farmer, of Mooncoin in October 1915.
Niall McAuley
And here is the birth of Nicholas O'Brien in Mooncoin October 1917. Could this lad be 10? Looks a bit small to me. Then we run into the 1920s limit on birth records.
derangedlemur
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley 6 at the outside. Edit: wrt your earlier comment, I think 3 or 4 is most likely, from the height of him.
O Mac
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8468254@N02/ I think you're right about that Ballytarsney house. The front door is offset in the Streetview as above and there's signs on the plaster of the top gable window having been filled in.
John Spooner
https://www.flickr.com/photos/8468254@N02 Ballytarsney was described as "the most unsanitary village in the South of Ireland" by a deputation from Mooncoin who met Mr Moynihan of the Kilkenny Board of Health to discuss the Pildown water supply ("only a dribble") and sewerage scheme and related matters. (Waterford Standard - Saturday 24 September 1938)
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/8468254@N02 Mapped to Ballytarsney, well done.