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• 17/Feb/2023 09:15:58

Demolished, according to https://www.flickr.com/photos/13868867@N06/ - "Shanbally Castle was located near Clogheen, County Tipperary and built for Cornelius O'Callaghan, the first Viscount Lismore, in around 1810. It was the largest house built in Ireland by the noted English architect John Nash.1 The castle was acquired by the Irish Land Commission in 1954. On 21 March 1960 the castle, after much controversy, was demolished. ... " https://www.flickr.com/photos/13868867@N06/5625169443/

National Library of Ireland on The Commons

• 17/Feb/2023 09:18:28

https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia What a pity! It really was a beautiful building!

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• 17/Feb/2023 09:21:29

Lots of information here - specialcollections.ul.ie/shanbally-castle-papers/ Ed. And here - lordbelmontinnorthernireland.blogspot.com/2013/10/shanbal...

Insher

• 17/Feb/2023 09:23:18

Vista su - Seen in: Flickr Global

Niall McAuley

• 17/Feb/2023 09:25:41

Paging back in the catalogue I soon hit L_IMP_3449 of Clifden Station, opened 1895.

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• 17/Feb/2023 09:38:23

There is a woman in black (with an umbrella) and a Dog in this one - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000322148 Ed. One of 10 fabulous photos Mr French / Lawrence took of Shanbally - catalogue.nli.ie/Search/Results?lookfor=shanbally&typ...

Niall McAuley

• 17/Feb/2023 09:44:28

8 entries at the DIA including "extensive works" in 1908, and new lodges in 1906 and 11, alts and adds in 1912.

Niall McAuley

• 17/Feb/2023 09:49:43

SiteView

suckindeesel

• 17/Feb/2023 09:50:32

“Few acts of official vandalism rival the decision by the Government in 1957 to proceed with plans to demolish Shanbally Castle” - jskean.incolor.com/Shanbally.htm

Niall McAuley

• 17/Feb/2023 10:11:54

All the alts in the 20th century are for lady Beatrice Pole Carew, who was 24 in 1901.

Niall McAuley

• 17/Feb/2023 10:17:26

Here is George Ponsonby O'Callaghan Viscount Lismore and owner until his death in 1898. At his death, the calendar of wills says his estate was £20,853 2s 9d, over 2 million in today's sterling.

Niall McAuley

• 17/Feb/2023 10:34:06

If we are near 1895, I think the lady in the beachcomber's shot is too young to be the wife of the Viscount, married 1839. One possibility is that these shots are from after the Viscount died in 1898 left the house to his cousins, Beatrice and Constance, and the lady is one of them. The Viscount had 2 sons, and one of them married a Rosina Williams in 1874, and that son died in 1885, this could be the widow? Or, of course, she could be the housekeeper or someone like that.

Niall McAuley

• 17/Feb/2023 10:54:08

The house stayed in the Pole Carew family, sold by Beatrice's son Patrick in 1954 to the Land Commission. That lordbelmont blog upthread quotes a government statement after the demolition in 1960: "Apart from periods of military occupation the castle remained wholly unoccupied for 40 years," which would be since 1920.

John Spooner

• 17/Feb/2023 11:22:55

An article in the Munster Tribune of Friday 16 August 1957 gives the impression that the attitude to the demolition among locals was of resignation and indifference.

Clogheen people are not much concerned about the future of the castle. Some think it is a shame to destroy such a beautiful building, and that it should be used for some useful purpose, said Mr. L. Corbett: "It was thought at one time that it was going to be converted into an agricultural college, but that fell through" Another resident said that the people didn't care about it, and that it was "a relic of the old Ascendancy." But people are concerned about what happens to the land. Farmers who live in the area think that the estate should be divided. When the castle was owned by Major Pole-Carew, from 14 to 20 men were employed on the estate, but now only one man is left, Mr. Maurice Finn, who has worked there since he was a young boy. He said he would not like to see the castle demolished, but if nobody buys it there is nothing else to do.

John Spooner

• 17/Feb/2023 11:29:11

The following summer a reporter visited the castle and found locals involved in the demolition

Working on the taking down of staircases. fireplaces and all the Inside furnishings of the castle were Clogheen men Paddy and Denis O'Brien. Paddy Connolly and Dan Lynch. They had no qualms about pulling down Shanbally Castle. it is just a job to them and jobs today are hard enough to find. Man in charge of the demolition is Mr. P. Carr, who is a native of Newport, Co. Tipp.

Niall McAuley

• 17/Feb/2023 12:04:20

While the destruction of each of these Big Houses was a loss to us all on some level, the sheer number of houses, each one supported by a colossal estate of rent-paying tenants, meant we were never going to save them all unless we kept landlordism itself, or replaced it with taxes on us all to keep up these relics of old decency. The NUIG landed estates project for Connaught and Munster lists 4893 houses. Did we really need all of them as Museum pieces?

Quite Adept

• 17/Feb/2023 13:20:17

Another interesting account of its history, including some interior views and floor plans www.johnpmorrissey.com/post/shanbally/

Niall McAuley

• 17/Feb/2023 14:43:31

[https://www.flickr.com/photos/quiteadept] Interesting, that page contradicts the Government statement quoted above that the house was unoccupied, and says Lady Constance continued to live in a wing of Shanbally until her death 1949, well after World War II. And lady Constance liked dogs. We met her parents recently (this was never the parents home):