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Where: Munster, Co Kerry, Ireland

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Usually the Eason photos are really good shots showing great detail and evoking a response in the viewer but this image does nothing for Morning Mary. The Great Southern Hotel, once the jewel in the crown of hotels in the south of Ireland can be seen but only just while the lovely background of hills looks dull and dreary. Now please tell us how the image could have been improved?

Photographer: Unknown

Collection: Eason Photographic Collection

Date: between 1900-1939

NLI Ref: EAS_2391

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 26/Jan/2023 09:27:25

    Yes, I would have to say Mr French / Lawrence did it better. Twice. catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000324031 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000335025

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 26/Jan/2023 09:30:31

    The hotel looks almost derelict in this nearby Eason photo. What happened? - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000558114

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    suckindeesel

    • 26/Jan/2023 09:54:00

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Any location for this hotel? I see a ‘Southern Hotel” on the lakeside at Waterville on the 25”, gone on the modern map. No nearby Railway so probably not the one.

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    suckindeesel

    • 26/Jan/2023 09:57:16

    www.archiseek.com/2014/1894-great-southern-hotel-watervil... The archiseek site shows two versions of the hotel, the original as in our photo and a later much bigger building. www.alamy.com/picture-postcard-for-great-southern-hotel-w... matches our hotel and dated 1908

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/Jan/2023 11:41:49

    It has to be Waterville, why would there be a nearby railway?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/Jan/2023 11:43:17

    The DIA says CO. KERRY, WATERVILLE, LAKE HOTEL Date: 1894 Nature: Alts. & adds. are being made by Southern Hotels Co.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 26/Jan/2023 11:48:41

    Streetview-ish - goo.gl/maps/QsoEKHkhLKYHg1Qy6 The white building seen is marked on googlemaps as The Hogs Head

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/Jan/2023 11:48:51

    LakeView (revised)

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/Jan/2023 11:52:37

    WATERVILLE LAKE HOTEL LIMITED is located at CITY CHAMBERS, Ireland and is a Private limited company (Ltd.) company. The company began trading on 22 March 1946. WATERVILLE LAKE HOTEL LIMITED’s status is Inactive. The company is registered with the registration number IE011425.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/Jan/2023 12:02:12

    So it was part of Southern Hotels, then the GSR bought the hotel group, then (maybe in 1946?) it passed into other hands.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/Jan/2023 12:11:06

    I see references to it as the Hartopp's Arms hotel from the 1860s on.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/Jan/2023 12:27:37

    I believe this is it in the 1901 census. 16 windows to the front matches the other Eason. I can't find it (yet) in the 1911.

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    suckindeesel

    • 26/Jan/2023 13:05:21

    It’s not mentioned in the GSR add from July 1926 (our old friends ITA magazine) https://flic.kr/p/2odxsby https://flic.kr/p/2odxsvB 1908 postcard by ‘Jotter’

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    suckindeesel

    • 26/Jan/2023 13:59:13

    Niall McAuley “The Marquess of Lansdowne, the Hartopps and the Butlers were landowners and landlords in the area. Both the Hartopps and Butlers were considered helpful to tenants and created local employment. In a tourist guide of the 1860s, the Hartopp Arms Hotel and Butler's Arms were described as "stately" and "comfortable" respectively. The Hartopp Arms, later known as the Southern Lake Hotel, was demolished and the Waterville Lake Hotel constructed in its place at the beginning of the 1970s” placeandsee.com/wiki/waterville-munster-ireland I think this looks like our hotel: The Southern Hotel, Waterville Comments for that picture say was previously called The Hartopp Arms, as you already said [https://flic.kr/p/9nNRtD] flic.kr/p/9nNRtD It’s shown only on the 25” and later 5”, seems to have been demolished. I don’t see a replacement on that site on the modern OSI, as claimed above

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    suckindeesel

    • 26/Jan/2023 20:37:30

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ The Hogs Head is actually a golf course. I think our hotel was just beyond it, judging from a comparison of the 25” and Google maps

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 26/Jan/2023 21:18:59

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Hey! Hogs Head Hotel here. Hooray. Happy! - goo.gl/maps/bS8SyPf3FqNY1ZFS7

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 26/Jan/2023 22:21:53

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Not bad at all at all!

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    silverio10

    • 26/Jan/2023 22:55:46

    Buenas fotos antiguas .

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    suckindeesel

    • 26/Jan/2023 23:39:31

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] www.architecturaldigest.com/story/hogs-head-golf-course-i... The white structure is the clubhouse, the accommodation Lodge isn’t visible in that streetview

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