Trams and flags on the Green

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Without the benefit of Monkey Morgans airplane nonetheless Mr. French managed to get a shot of St. Stephens Green from high above the street. A lovely scene with trams (electric), flags on high and ladies in the latest fashions. If yesterday's image showed where the city had changed utterly then today's is surely changed even more with very few of the establishments there or if they are looking the same.

Photographer: Robert French

Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection

Date: Circa 1865 - 1914

NLI Ref: L_IMP_2514

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 17/Jan/2023 09:10:53

    Just enjoying the sights on this and I note that one premises offers "Turkish and Electric Baths"! Steam and sizzle:-D

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 17/Jan/2023 09:19:53

    "SCHREIER" strikes me as an unusual name. From 1908 acccording to - databases.dublincity.ie/search.php?searchtype=surname&... Division: Division 3: St. Stephen's Green Ward: Mansion House Name: Herman Schreier Address: 136 STEPHEN'S GREEN, WEST Qualification: Rated Occupier £72 Description: house, office and yard Voter number: 880 Year: 1908

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 17/Jan/2023 09:23:23

    As you were - also in 1899 (bottom entry)

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    suckindeesel

    • 17/Jan/2023 09:38:15

    Tram numbers indicate 1899 onwards

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    suckindeesel

    • 17/Jan/2023 09:42:47

    "Traitor's Gate", 1907, appears missing. So, date range 1899(trams) - 1907

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    suckindeesel

    • 17/Jan/2023 10:04:42

    “Crossing Stephen's, that is, my green…” - Ulysses

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    Architecture of Dublin

    • 17/Jan/2023 10:23:23

    And in the distance on the corner of Harcourt Street we can just make out the old Russell Hotel en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Russell_Hotel [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/51682833073/] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/88[email protected]/4011261500]

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    Architecture of Dublin

    • 17/Jan/2023 10:25:28

    So many Lawrence photos of the Green from every angle imaginable really https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/52610912142/in/photolist-2o4tMHP-2m9EqaT-2mxJVMD-2mjGu8L-2nR1qTW-2oa3Ff7-2mK32ER-2mK2Mur-2n4ikPi-2o5VYRj-2n4jz98

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    John Spooner

    • 17/Jan/2023 10:29:31

    It's probably too late to apply ... and I'm probably not qualified ... but (Northern Whig - Thursday 23 October 1902)

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    Niall McAuley

    • 17/Jan/2023 10:40:26

    The trams are electrified, but there are no tall electric lights. In CLAR21 (latest 1904) I see a tall swan necked electric light on the green...

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    Architecture of Dublin

    • 17/Jan/2023 10:55:36

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Yes I cannot see any Scotch standard lamposts which seem to have been installed from 1903-20, presumably St Stephen's Green would have been one of the first areas to have them...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 17/Jan/2023 11:02:51

    L_ROY_10569 is later with the Arch, and swan necked lights on the North side of the Green. L_ROY_08598 has them on the South.

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    suckindeesel

    • 17/Jan/2023 17:10:42

    Yes, but what is meant by “electric baths”? Internet gives several possible explanations

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    suckindeesel

    • 17/Jan/2023 17:38:43

    www.victorianturkishbath.org/6directory/AtoZEstab/Ireland... Includes the following description: “Also to be found were sitz baths, foot sprays, and seat sprays which could be 'regulated by the patient' and were recommended for the treatment of piles.” The baths were next door to Jury’s Hotel which owned them. Can anyone ID the hotel location? There were separate entrances for men and women. The men occupied the ground floor and the women were upstairs

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    Niall McAuley

    • 17/Jan/2023 17:49:07

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Per their website, the original Jurys hotel was on College Green. Yes, I see pics of it on the corner with Anglesea Street. No Longer Standing, but some entries at the DIA

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    suckindeesel

    • 17/Jan/2023 17:59:49

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Yes, I well remember the old Jury’s near College Green, but the Turkish Bath site says there was a Jury’s next door to it. However, photo shows no adjacent hotel or anything that could have been a hotel, perhaps it had closed by then? Or a mistake? “This establishment adjoining Jury's Hotel, and owned by them, was opened on 5 August 1878.” The proprietor was actually Jury himself.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 17/Jan/2023 18:05:23

    This history page suggests that the College Green site was the only Jurys Hotel until after 1924. The turkish baths are on the 25" map, but no hotel adjoining.

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    suckindeesel

    • 17/Jan/2023 20:33:27

    Niall McAuley Thanks, no hotel then, so don’t believe everything you read online.

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    suckindeesel

    • 17/Jan/2023 20:51:41

    https://flic.kr/p/2oc3q7d Here’s one version of the ‘Electric Bath’, circa 1870. Definitely looks more than a bit dodgy.

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    suckindeesel

    • 17/Jan/2023 20:56:39

    Google Earth Link earth.app.goo.gl/Zn7AL7 #googleearth