Johnny Roche had a tower with a tree on top,
he loved to dance and never stop,
He lived in Cork near the corner shop,
But why has he got a tree on top!
It has come to the weekend and it's cold outside. At the top of the link to this image on the NLI is a reference to a composition by Peader Kearney entitled "Johnny whack fol the diddle" and so that dreadful verse above. Hopefully the Beachcomber will be able to improve on it with a suitable Limerick?
Photographer: Irish Tourist Association
Collection: Irish Tourist Association Photographic Collection
Date: 1942 - 1944
NLI Ref: NPA ITA 309 (Box II)
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Source: Flickr Commons
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/] I cannot improve on Johnny Roche's own epitaph ... “Here lies the body of poor John Roche, He had his faults but don't reproach; For when alive his hearth was mellow, An artist, genius and comic fellow.” See - www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/irish-inventor-america...
A couple of mentions in dúchas.ie "Once there lived a man by the name of Johnny Roche in Kilnanare. He was a handy man. One time he tried to build a house. He bought a cord for to measure the walls of it. When he had a good part of the wall built he noticed it was getting crooked. A man named John Sullivan was walking along the road and he said "Your wall is a bit crooked Johnny" Johnny was very angry and he said " I wouldn't doubt Mick Flurry (of Firies) because he never sold a bit of straight cord." " From - www.duchas.ie/en/cbes/4742069/4732488 Another - www.duchas.ie/en/cbes/4921814/4894964/5187089 dúchas.ie and this Irish Tourism Association collection seem again to be connected ...
Is this it ?? Streetview July 2019 - goo.gl/maps/1S3gniPUKp2EYWmC7
Yes, marked as 'Castle Curious' on the 25" old map. 52.213419, -8.490018 (via google maps)
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Your candidate is marked on the 25" as Castle Curious Youtube drone footage with commentary.
Yes, confirmation at the NIAH:, built in 1845: Castle Curious was personally designed and constructed by local eccentric Johnny Roche, who used the building as a workshop, smithy and home. The structure is built in the castle style and retains the remains of a complex interior plan. The carved date-stone to the east elevation was removed from a bridge built by Roche and inserted into the wall of Castle Curious after his death. The structure is a local landmark in the area and the site retains the ruins of a mill, in the same ownership and built on the banks of the River Awbeg.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley I like that droneview. It's good to see the trees still growing on top.
Curiouser and curiouser
His obituary in Cork Constitution - Tuesday 12 February 1884."occasional job of dentistry" - Why not? After all he could do everything else.
Occupation Miller on the record of his death.
Some more on his skills, from the Cork Constitution - Tuesday 09 November 1858and
Found Unconscious by the roadside cause unknown 12 hours no medical attendant.
Mae Roche (her mark) sister in law present at death
Google Earth Link earth.app.goo.gl/Dxvyxs #googleearth youtu.be/CQlEja2bYNY theirishaesthete.com/tag/castle-curious/
Should Irish Tourism Association be Irish TOURIST Association? I can find numerous primary sources for the latter in the NLI catalogue, but the only results for the former are the photos in this collection. A search of the Irish Newspaper Archives for "Irish Tourism Association" between 1940 and 1944 produces zero results, but "Irish Tourist Association" produces 1,858 results.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Could be wrong, but I think it predated the Irish Tourist Association, and was funded by the tourism industry not the state
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] It is a good point and I will have it checked and get back to you. Mary
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000577057 This photo published in Irish Travel, October 1945, “official organ of the Irish Tourist Association arrow.tudublin.ie/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1021&co...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ From the Oct ‘42 issue SECTION II.-IRISH CURIOSITIES. First Prize….£5 (one award) Second………£3 (five awards) Third…………..£1 (twenty awards) " Curiosities" include old landmarks, wishing stones, curious objects and structures, freaks of nature (e g, grotesque rock-carvings), any scene or item queer. quaint or mirth-provoking, also quaint old customs, tra- ditional cures &c. Brief descriptive story or legend must accompany each photo. Our series of photos appears to be from reader’s own photo contributions to this section, with prize money! This may go some way to explain the rather curious and random nature of the pictures. There were also sections for ‘General’ and ‘Eyesores’
There is another glimpse of the Curious Castle with two women drinking from the nearby well, marked on the 25" map as 'St. Bernard's Well' - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000574732 Johnny Roche gets EIGHT mentions in dúchas.ie - www.duchas.ie/en/src?q=Johnny+roche
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] The archive was opened, and the records were searched and researched, and it transpires that you are correct. Our colleagues report “We are sorry for having caused him unnecessary research. He’s quite right – the record should have read Irish Tourist Association. Along the way, transferring to Special Collections cataloguing, the word was changed from Tourist (as in our own original records) to Tourism” We are now of course presuming that https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] is male which may be another error?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Thank you for following up on this - no apologies necessary! Your presumption is (I'm quite sure) correct. Many thanks again.