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Those Krazy Kataloguers continue to sow the seeds of division and confusion while providing entertainment early in the morning. The title states "Unlabelled, urns, clocks and pulleys" where there is one clock, milk churns and a factory line with lots of belts and pulley wheels. With those churns on view we are obviously looking at something related to dairy in this Mason image but what, where and when?

Photographer: Thomas H. Mason

Collection: Mason Photographic Collection

Date: 1890 - 1910

NLI Ref: M9/2

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 17/Nov/2022 08:50:51

    Toffee! In Limerick! 05:47 or 17:47 ?

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    Oretani Wildlife (Mike Grimes)

    • 17/Nov/2022 09:04:47

    I see Knocklong Dairy on the board which was part of the Condensed Milk Company of Ireland. It's headquarters were in Limerick. My grandfather worked for the company from 1905 to 1919 as a lab technician. He had to leave the country due to membership of the IRB. Eventually he returned in 1924 to teach dairy microbiology at UCC. It's interesting to see a photo of somewhere he probably worked. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condensed_Milk_Company_of_Ireland Here's a streetview of the building. goo.gl/maps/96g6fbbMZhsNaRT87

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 17/Nov/2022 09:08:33

    From wikipedia link above - ... in May 1920 at Knocklong, County Limerick, the workers decided to escalate a pay dispute by taking over the company's creamery in the town. They hoisted a red flag over the premises and erected a banner across the entrance which read "Knocklong Soviet Creamery, we make butter not profits." The Cleeves conceded defeat after five days and granted retrospective wage increases to the workers. The success of the workers at Knocklong precipitated similar disputes at other Cleeve factories ...

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 17/Nov/2022 09:38:01

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikeegee] Did you find this one too? The laboratory (ten minutes later) - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000519412/HierarchyTree?recor...

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    Oretani Wildlife (Mike Grimes)

    • 17/Nov/2022 10:22:25

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Brilliant, possibly where my grandfather would have worked at times, although he may have been mostly in the Limerick factory. Thank you for that.

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    Deirge (Del)

    • 17/Nov/2022 10:51:01

    Ah, taking milk to the creamery by pony & cart, the queue for the platform, the clatter and bang of emptying the cans and the returning with skim milk for young calves. When on holidays I used to be taken for the spin until a slight notion was taken for a worker there and I started getting left behind. In the old days days the creamery system was viable for farmers with just 2 cows, in the end 10+ was not enough and its either totally in with the milking with big herds or go to beef cattle with sucking calves. The machinery in the room is (I suppose) a mechanical way for spinning/churning to produce butter etc. I presume. If my memory serves right each farmer's herd would be given a number and a sample taken for quality testing in the laboratory each time a famer's milk was delivered for testing, and from memory I think the price paid for their milk depended on the quality test for that sample (I'm talking 1960's here).

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    suckindeesel

    • 17/Nov/2022 14:08:45

    Google Earth Link earth.app.goo.gl/qPwm42 #googleearth The old plant with the ‘Dockers Monument’ in foreground. The toffee came in slabs which needed one of these to break up [https://flic.kr/p/Y8qD3n] via Jacqui Bartlett

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    Niall McAuley

    • 17/Nov/2022 14:20:44

    I think the top line chalked on the blackboard below Knocklong Dairy is: DATE: Sept 6/99

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    suckindeesel

    • 17/Nov/2022 17:50:43

    I think Knocklong was a much bigger plant then than streetview shows. The 25” shows Knocklong Condensed Milk Factory and the Maypole Creamery on a large corner site. The later 6” shows the Condensed Milk Factory on the same site including that nice building on the corner.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 17/Nov/2022 20:21:29

    Via Trove, more details of "The Knocklong Soviet Creamery" in 1920 - trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/240692145?searchTerm=k...

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    Swordscookie

    • 17/Nov/2022 20:39:09

    OOOOOH AAAAAH Cleeve's Toffee! Growing up in Limerick and with an elderly maiden aunt working in Cleeves I got a weekly fix of toffee and boiled sweets when my father went down to visit! It was amazingly creamy and chewy and if I had had fillings it would not have been for long! The tins of condensed milk were a great standby in those days before the arrival of refrigerators in our homes. A hole on each side and patience and you ended up with very sweet tea that didn't necessarily look like tea.

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    suckindeesel

    • 17/Nov/2022 20:48:53

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Looks like you’re spot on re date https://flic.kr/p/2nZQWK5

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    O Mac

    • 19/Nov/2022 12:43:38

    I see it was also know as the Maypole Creamery. flic.kr/p/2o19J5U

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    Fraser P

    • 19/Nov/2022 22:46:46

    I think what we're looking at in the picture is very similar to this set-up: www.alamy.com/dairy-refrigeration-primary-and-secondary-c... So, simply milk refrigeration and pasteurisation. I thought it might be ice-cream manufacture, since the coils around the vats put me in mind of the condenser elements on the back of a fridge. But this Alamy image seems to replicate all the same features of the Knocklong Dairy scene, including all the belts and pulleys, and is almost the same date (1912).

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    Fraser P

    • 19/Nov/2022 22:51:37

    Also, the leftmost element of the machinery (marked with a note on the image) looks to be a centrifugal milk/cream separator: www.alamy.com/stock-image-engraving-of-the-alexandra-cent...