Bloomin cataloguers again! Peggy at the well is clearly set out on the plate but she transcribed it as Peggy at the wall:-( Very annoying behaviour from the denizens of the Towers.
Unusual for Mr. French this is a portrait of a lady in all her period finery standing at a well, a basket to hand and an earthenware jar on the ground for drawing the water. Peggy looks very dressed up for the chore but looks very well in her cloak and hood. It should be interesting trying to find out the who, the where and even the when????
Fogra Mór
At the suggestion of Research (and all the other work) Mary next week we will have "IMPERIAL WEEK" where we will focus on Imperial size plates from the Lawrence Collection. These are among the largest plates in the National Libraries collections and the detail is generally magnificent. We hope that you will enjoy them
Photographer:
Robert French
Collection:
Lawrence Photograph Collection
Date: Circa 1865 - 1914
NLI Ref:
L_CAB_06706
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at
catalogue.nli.ie
Info:
Owner:
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Source:
Flickr Commons
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suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/4427423030
Ramble on...
What's noticeable is how thin in the face she is, this raises questions about the famine and poor nutrition. What was her position in society is she gentry or posing as in full refinery?
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] The Detroit Publishing Co. didn't like Peggy's startled look, bosom, and wasp waist. Fascinating!
O Mac
suckindeesel The illustration of the women in your card was taken from this photograph. catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000333599 There is another photograph of two women taken at the same place but I cannot find it in the catalogue. Here's a screenshot taken from an NLI history page. flic.kr/p/2nDQkz7 More of the same women and basket. Points to somewhere near Killarney. Cloak referred to as "Kerry Cloak" www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/shares/xr7iD86egC
O Mac
Same place catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000333403
suckindeesel
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] Wiki has it as ‘Colleen in Kinsale Cloak’ commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Colleen_in_Kinsale_Cloak.jpg
John Spooner
What is the gadget on the right of the flat slab? It looks like a pocket watch in a leather case. Perhaps with straps to enable it to be worn on the wrist? Whatever it is, it doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the photo.
suckindeesel
The Library of Congress thinks 1890 - 1900 for the postcard. The original Lawrence would, of course, be earlier
O Mac
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ possibly the photographers for timing exposures?
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I wonder did Lawrence take these photos on comission from the Detroit Publishing Co?
Foxglove
in all its variations, it's a popular theme. insurance company Scottish Widows ( woman in cloak) removed all advertising from Heathrow Terminal 3 as many naive arrivals (in the 1990s) thought that Scottish Widows was an escort agency
Foxglove
model was Roger Moore's ( James Bond) daughter
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Looks like a wristlet which was a pocket watch worn on the wrist, predates the wristwatch. Yes, could have been used for timing exposures as suggested by O Mac. It’s as out of place here as that extra watch in ‘The raising of the flag over the Reichstag’ The whole thing has a staged appearance, as no ‘Irish Colleen’ went to the well wearing a satin lined cloak with embroidery on the collar. These things were often plain and handed down from mother to daughter
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Possibly, I wonder if the other two images on the postcard are also similar to any Lawrence photos?
Niall McAuley
Jaunting car aka L_CAB_06758
O Mac
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] Top hat man pin.it/3QwZB8u
suckindeesel
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] Good find, here he is in the original ‘On an Irish jaunting-car through Donegal and Connemara’ by Samual Gamble Bayne www.libraryireland.com/Jaunting-Car/Title.php
suckindeesel
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] flic.kr/p/2nDVGC2
suckindeesel
Yet another version, postcard flic.kr/p/2nDYZ1s
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
[Aside] Flickr is sometimes ... Here is "Top Hat Man" from the 1902 book 'On an Irish jaunting-car through Donegal and Connemara' by Samuel G. Bayne, who says in his intro the photographs came from "W. Lawrence, T.Glass, and Commissioner Walker". Many of the illustrations are on flickr (and may be of use in dating and identifying other Lawrence photos); alas no sign of Peggy and her well - www.flickr.com/photos/internetarchivebookimages/tags/book... The book online - archive.org/details/onirishjauntingc00bayn/page/n7/mode/1... [https://www.flickr.com/photos/internetarchivebookimages/14781365292/]
Prettypetal2012
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suckindeesel
And here’s the original of the jaunting car, by Lawrence, of course [flic.kr/p/2nE4e5L]
suckindeesel
A Lawrence connection flic.kr/p/2nE3191 www.ebid.net/nz/for-sale/irish-farmer-lawrence-colour-pos... This image has been used over the years with different backgrounds: on the cover of a Moliere paperback, a Turkish paperback ‘The Peasant Wearing a Top Hat, The Unforgettable Series Dorlion Publishing House’, another postcard, etc
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
💡Yikes! "Top Hat Man" is one of that extensive Lawrence series "Irish Life". He is "Kerry Man" - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000327341 Ed. Also "Himself" - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000322746 (with Kilrush Regatta poster) Seen also here (?) - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000334055 And it was the Lawrence studio which made the original of the Detroit Publishing colourized triptych - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000321423
suckindeesel
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] Excellent! Not forgetting the original Kerry Girl catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000332183 The original ‘Man for all seasons’
O Mac
That photo of the "Top Hat Man" was taken at Kilrush Railway Station. Note the same black spots on glass behind him too. Maybe he was a Clare man after all. Kilrush opened to traffic 11/05/1892 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000334046 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000327341
suckindeesel
Lhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Spot on, the poster says ‘Kilrush Regatta’ Pity I can’t resolve the date
silverio10
Buenas fotos antiguas .
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] The black spots look like a koala ! 🐨
oaktree_brian_1976
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] they really did a bad touch-up job on the photo used for the postcard.
oaktree_brian_1976
The Yanks call the Imperial plates Mammoth-sized! www.americanantiquarian.org/daguerreotypes-0
Carnacki_The_Ghost_Finder
It seems like the whole hill or wall behind the lady is layered rock set amongst trees/shrubs. Is that layered rock common to any parts of Ireland or too common? Is it slate?
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Americans not known for their modesty
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ It’s like peeling back the layers of an onion
suckindeesel
flic.kr/p/2nE8235
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ https://flic.kr/p/2nEcDq5 The background, except for the poster, matches the station, note airbrick behind foot.. So, taken on a different day? This is the Cappa Pier platform, which there is a photo of, dated c.1900 on Flickr.
Oretani Wildlife (Mike Grimes)
I have memories of the late 70's seeing elderly ladies in Bandon wearing a cloak. According to Wikipedia, West Cork was the last bastion of cloak wearing in Ireland. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsale_cloak
suckindeesel
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] No, they used this one instead catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000332183 Probably more in line with the image of a comely Irish maiden
derangedlemur
She appears to be up the duff. ( Or else either smuggling something or a weird shape)
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Ridiculously tight corset is making her eyes bulge too. Poor Peggy ...
suckindeesel
Previously on this channel https://flic.kr/p/2kSszfS
suckindeesel
Must have been a slow weekend?
nannyjean35
i love this