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Where: Leinster, County Kilkenny, Ireland

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Those who look askance at the last four 'words' above will be too young to remember the old black and white detective movies of the 1940's and 50's and their atmospheric commentary on the happenings on-screen. Today we have a Poole mystery that requires a bit of detective work to tell us where the crossroads is and what it looks like today. Judging by the date and the tyre marks on the road the crossroads was a busy one with plenty of traffic passing through.

Photographer: A. H. Poole

Collection: Poole Photographic Studio, Waterford

Date: 16th December 1930

NLI Ref: POOLEWP 3777

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 05/Aug/2022 07:52:35

    16 December 1930 was a Tuesday ...

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    O Mac

    • 05/Aug/2022 07:53:30

    Bawnscoope Roads, Co. Kilkenny catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000594410 Poole took a good few photos of the crossroads. Bawnscoope doesn't come up on d'internet. catalogue.nli.ie/Search/Results?lookfor=Bawnscoope&ty...

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 05/Aug/2022 07:55:18

    "Bawnscoope Roads, Co. Kilkenny : commissioned by H.D. Keane Esq., Solicitor" on a similar item - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000594412 Grrr! - Google Maps says no.

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    Frank Olayag

    • 05/Aug/2022 08:11:57

    --Admired in Black & White Photo Group

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 05/Aug/2022 08:15:33

    There is an illegible sign-post in this one, if someone is feeling clever - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000594414

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Aug/2022 08:19:57

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia That one also shows a corner shop pub with an EGAN sign, and is catalogued as Bawnscoope Roads, re Venerable Archdeacon Phelan P.P, Piltown

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    O Mac

    • 05/Aug/2022 08:46:42

    There's no Egan listed in the 1901 or 1911 in such a place, or listed as publican

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Aug/2022 08:48:31

    Baurscoob, Dunnamaggan! here is Alice Egan, Shopkeeper and general grocer, in Dunnamaggin. Google maps marks Baurscoob Grotto there.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Aug/2022 08:57:24

    Baurscoob is on the 25" with a pump at the crossroads. The building centred in today's shot is Dunnamaggan School.

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    O Mac

    • 05/Aug/2022 08:58:04

    l [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] Well done. Egans building is still there though changed a bit. The long tin roof is extant. R699 maps.app.goo.gl/BiJiBbRdQW4yaHbKA

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Aug/2022 08:58:58

    The pump is still there in this 2019 Streetview. The school is gone.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Aug/2022 09:05:08

    Google translate is giving me Brush Top as a translation?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 05/Aug/2022 09:05:12

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Excellent.

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    suckindeesel

    • 05/Aug/2022 09:07:27

    Yes, but "What's it all about, Alfie?"

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Aug/2022 09:08:22

    The school building has a rectangular scar, perhaps where the National School sign was removed, may not have been a school at this date.

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    John Spooner

    • 05/Aug/2022 11:43:10

    The Waterford Standard of April 30th 1932 reported on edited "an application for particulars made in the High Court, Dublin, to Mr. Justice O’Byrne, on behalf of the defendant, in an action in which the plaintiff was the Ven. Archdeacon Phelan, P.P., Piltown, Co. Kilkenny. and the defendant is Mr. Wm. Butler, of Minauns, Callan, Co. Kilkenny, retired Colonel of the British Army and farmer. Archdeacon Phelan claims damages laid at £3.000 for personal injuries sustained by him through the alleged negligence the defendant's servant in the driving of a motor lorry, the property of the defendant on the public road at Bawnscoop, County Kilkenny, on 2nd June, 1930; and for injury his motor car. " ”At Bawnscoop cross roads, both roads intersect. The defendant's servant so negligently managed and drove the motor lorry that it was driven with great force against the motor car of the plaintiff at the cross roads, striking it on the left side, inside which the plaintiff was sitting, and pushing it obliquely the left across the road against a dwellinghouse and shop. ” "The defendant denied negligence and pleaded contributory negligence on the part of the driver of the Archdeacon’s motor car, and counterclaimed £lO4 Us. 6d. for repairs to the lorry and for loss sustained while it was being repaired, at the rate of £1 10s. per day. " Mr M. J. Connolly (instructed by Mr H. D. Keane, Waterford) appeared for the plaintiff. So my guess is that the photo was commissioned as evidence in the court case, which even at the April 1932 hearing was not concluded.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 05/Aug/2022 12:06:27

    Preacher-man T-boned at the crossroads. Sounds like a classic blues song.

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    suckindeesel

    • 05/Aug/2022 13:44:40

    Here’s our water pump on NIAH www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/12403...

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    suckindeesel

    • 05/Aug/2022 13:55:45

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ From ‘Barr Scuab’ which indeed seems to mean ‘Top Brush’

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    suckindeesel

    • 05/Aug/2022 13:58:13

    The townland of Baurscoob www.townlands.ie/kilkenny/kells/dunnamaggan/dunnamaggan/d...

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 05/Aug/2022 15:56:28

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner I would guess that your guess is spot on.

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    John Spooner

    • 05/Aug/2022 17:25:58

    According to the report of the incident in the Waterford Standard on 7th June 1930,

    The Archdeacon’s car was badly smashed up, the windscreens and other parts being reduced to atoms.
    but miraculously
    Beyond slight shock the Archdeacon suffered no injury, but his escape was providential.
    The Archdeacon died in February 1935.

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    suckindeesel

    • 05/Aug/2022 20:04:38

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Good detective work! The Archdeacon’s 3k claim is equivalent to £137,000 in today’s money, an enormous amount. Motor insurance didn’t become compulsory in Ireland until the introduction of the Road Traffic Act in 1933, hence the court case

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    suckindeesel

    • 05/Aug/2022 20:14:27

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] The signpost in catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000594414 appears to have been deliberately ‘burned’ in the darkroom to hide its location, strange

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    Prettypetal2012

    • 13/Aug/2022 05:49:31

    < b>This photo is awarded with a gold harp. < a href="https://www.flickr.com/groups/beauty_of_ireland/">https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3064/2800465999_989ddd1f82_m.jpg" width="150" height="150" alt="Ireland?" /> < a href="https://www.flickr.com/groups/beauty_of_ireland//">Beauty of Ireland < /a>