Going to a Wake in Cork

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Where: Munster, Cork, Ireland

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When: 01 January 1890

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A less impressive building for you all today, but it would still be lovely to find out more about it, and about its owner...

Photographer: Robert French

Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection

Date: Circa 1890? (deffo before 1895 when the late Doctor Wake's home and belongings were sold)

NLI Ref: L_ROY_00036

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 14/Jul/2022 07:12:50

    That is an unusually low catalogue number "L_ROY_00036". Nearby in the catalogue are several from Renny, Co. Cork, including https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/35091949556

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 14/Jul/2022 07:15:11

    Or possibly Ballyhooly, Co. Cork ? https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/7406536002/

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    John Spooner

    • 14/Jul/2022 07:48:17

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Ballyhooly, you say? Cork Constitution - Tuesday 15 January 1895 Cork Constitution - Tuesday 15 January 1895 I had a streetview amble round the outskirts of Ballyhooly and found a candidate, (same number of downstairs windows, same shape porch, low eaves) but wasn't sure, even allowing for alterations in the last 125 years (rebuilding the porch in stone, dormer windows, removal of chimneys, new downstairs windows) and the roof apex looks higher. And now I can't find it. Edit: but it certainly wasn't this wood cottage: ie.geoview.info/wood_cottage,3300409 (which if you look on satellite view doesn't exist)

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 14/Jul/2022 07:55:21

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner Keep at it!

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    John Spooner

    • 14/Jul/2022 08:04:57

    Found it. And the roof's a different shape, but ... alterations over 125 years goo.gl/maps/qvLcz984dJSmkkoi9

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 14/Jul/2022 08:23:33

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner Good work there, but sorry, I am not convinced with your streetview. Chimneys tend to stay put, like the building's skeleton. And the chimneys' shadows seem to show the old building is facing north or east -ish; the streetview one is facing south.

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    John Spooner

    • 14/Jul/2022 08:30:38

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia I'm certainly not convinced. Good point on the shadows.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 14/Jul/2022 08:44:23

    from irishgeneology dot ie: the death of Richard Wake, Medical Doctor, not practicing? aged 71, bachelor. The copy is not very clear, but address looks like Wood Cottage Ballytague?

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 14/Jul/2022 08:49:50

    Here is the house in the mid distance (use megazoom) at Renny - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000326676

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 14/Jul/2022 08:54:36

    Satellite view - www.google.com/maps/@52.1381321,-8.4316593,98m/data=!3m1!1e3

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    Niall McAuley

    • 14/Jul/2022 08:58:14

    Wood Cottage is on the now unlinkable 25". Yes, the Google maps aerial view (which the beachcomber found first!) is a match.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 14/Jul/2022 08:58:31

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Well spotted!

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    Niall McAuley

    • 14/Jul/2022 09:07:38

    The good doctor's middle name appears to be Heathcote

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 14/Jul/2022 09:12:10

    aka Kylenahoura House according to this 2010 for sale blurb - "... Formerly known as Wood Cottage and built as a hunting lodge for Lord Listowel, Kylenahoura House has been superbly restored, with five bedrooms in the expanded main house, three bedrooms in the gate lodge, and future potential in its range of stone-built, courtyard buildings ..." See - www.irishexaminer.com/property/arid-20118583.html

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    Niall McAuley

    • 14/Jul/2022 10:00:48

    Wake is listed as owning 14 acres at Kylenahoory, Ballyhooly in 1876 on this Mallow history page. Kylenahoory is the townland with Wood Cottage on the OSI maps.

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    John Spooner

    • 14/Jul/2022 10:57:41

    A Dr Wake gets mentions in the press for his angling prowess e.g. Cork Constitution - Friday 14 February 1868 on catches with the fly on the Blackwater: "... and Doctor Wake, an excellent angler, landed several, and amongst them a very new weighty one." I noticed that fishing rods were included in the auction of his goods.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 14/Jul/2022 13:20:01

    I would imagine that the photo would not be labelled Dr. Wake's Lodge if Dr. Wake was dead? So dated before 1894.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 14/Jul/2022 14:06:00

    Paging back through the catalogue, the first concrete date I see is a headstone at Cashel dated at 1902 in L_ROY_00027

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    suckindeesel

    • 14/Jul/2022 17:31:13

    I propose this location for Wood Cottage Wood Cottage Wood Cottage maps.app.goo.gl/RUpyFZZGxiLi5qPT8 Not named on 25", but a search on both the 25" and Google maps points here Its plan matches the photo as does it's location beside river. It also has a handy pier for the good doctors boat fishing. Eircode P43WD21

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    Niall McAuley

    • 14/Jul/2022 21:48:05

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ check the beachcomber upthread, he found the house in another shot at Renny

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    suckindeesel

    • 14/Jul/2022 23:02:54

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Yes, I see it now, good catch. as the doctor would have said. The Property Price Register records it’s sale in 2010 for 450k, a lot less than in the earlier Examiner article, perhaps it had lost some of its acres

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    Flickr

    • 15/Jul/2022 04:15:17

    Congrats on Explore! ⭐ July 14, 2022

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    @ttomab

    • 15/Jul/2022 04:18:40

    Nice Capture! Congratulations On Explore!

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    • 15/Jul/2022 05:03:44

    Congrats on Explore!🔥

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    Marut Rata (on-off)

    • 15/Jul/2022 05:49:50

    Congrats on explore ✨🎈

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    • 15/Jul/2022 06:37:53

    Glückwunsch zu Explore !

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    • 15/Jul/2022 15:36:03

    Congrats.............

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    54StorminWillyGJ54

    • 17/Jul/2022 00:16:14

    A Nice Capture!