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A really handsome family group with a Reverend gentleman, his lady wife and their children including a young man wearing an officers uniform bearing a winged O. Commissioned by Mr. Scutt, Creywell, New Ross the boys bear a strong resemblance to the father. Hopefully number one son survived the next 11 months and lived a long and happy life thereafter?

Photographer: A. H. Poole

Collection: Poole Photographic Studio, Waterford

Date:Circa January 25th 1918

NLI Ref: POOLEWP 2758

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    Irish251

    • 01/Jul/2022 07:39:09

    Those are Observer rather than pilot’s wings.

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    i-lenticularis (NO GRAPHICS)

    • 01/Jul/2022 07:43:11

    Absolutely!

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 01/Jul/2022 07:52:38

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/smoooooth-lll What does an observer do? Observe?

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    Irish251

    • 01/Jul/2022 08:00:19

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland He is the second crewman and would have had a mounted machine-gun, but the title derives, I think, from the Royal Flying Corps' original role which was general reconnaissance and spotting for ground artillery.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 01/Jul/2022 08:04:56

    25 January 1918 was a Friday ...

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 01/Jul/2022 08:07:18

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Thank you, Mary https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia

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    Irish251

    • 01/Jul/2022 08:08:43

    The RAF came into being on 1 April 1918, by the way.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 01/Jul/2022 08:08:55

    Oh dear! KLAXON ! www.google.com.au/books/edition/Fallen_Eagles/1PezDgAAQBA... [Edit - transcribed ...] Flight Lieutenant G.H.H. Scutt MC, 15 February 1924 George Howard Homer Scutt was the son of Brewer Master George Decimus Homer Scutt and Mrs Emmie Howard Scutt of Creywell, New Ross, County Wexford, born on 5 May 1898. He had one brother and one sister. George was educated at the John Ivory School in New Ross from 1908 to 1911, then at Cheltenham College, May 1912 to July 1915, where he became a member of the school's OTC. He also played rugby, being in the Cheltondale 3rd XV in 1915. [Photo of George Scutt aged 17] Progressing to Sandhurst he was commissioned into the 1st Battalion of the King's Liverpool Regiment on 7 April 1916, having an uncle, Colonel Tripp, already with the KLR. Going to France, Scutt was wounded in the right arm by shrapnel during a trench ... [pages omitted from preview] ... Scutt remained in the RAF after the war and became a pilot,and promoted to flight lieutenant. On 15 February 1924, while piloting a Sopwith Snipe (E7601)with No. 25 Squadron, he hit the ground during a formation dive over their base at Hawkinge, and died in the subsequent crash. According to the court on enquiry: The cause of the accident was in our opinion F/Lieut. Scutt found himself in the slip stream of the leading machine an in endeavouring to counteract the effect of this slip stream lost control of his aircraft and had insufficient height to regain control, and that F/Lieut. Scutt immediately prior to the accident had lost correct formation position as laid down in No. 1 Group letter on "Formation Flying" on 18.10.23.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 01/Jul/2022 08:10:49

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia He made it through WW1!

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    Black and White Fine Art

    • 01/Jul/2022 08:59:49

    fantastic portrait!!!

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 01/Jul/2022 09:01:47

    The 25" map shows a Craywell House and Craywell Brewery not far north of the bridge at New Ross.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 01/Jul/2022 09:31:02

    George, Emma (mother d. 1943), Rodney Owen (d. 1989 aged 83), and another brother Desmond Barlow (1913-1916), and the father (illegible), grave / memorial at St Mary's, New Ross - historicgraves.com/st-mary-s-new-ross/wx-nrsm-0003/grave

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 01/Jul/2022 09:45:13

    Here they all are, with dates - www.ancestry.com.au/genealogy/records/george-decimus-home...

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    i-lenticularis (NO GRAPHICS)

    • 01/Jul/2022 10:41:32

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Yes, back in WWI they would have been engaged on general reconnaissance and spotting for own artillery.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 01/Jul/2022 11:24:37

    Sopwith Snipes (see comment) during WW1 with a pilot (see wings insignia) via [https://www.flickr.com/photos/britishlibrary/] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/britishlibrary/12459030295/] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Flying_Corps

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    Niall McAuley

    • 01/Jul/2022 11:55:49

    1911 census

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 01/Jul/2022 12:31:51

    Via Trove, 11/06/1924 - trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/31236064

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    suckindeesel

    • 01/Jul/2022 13:53:23

    All ‘gas-and-gaiters’

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    Niall McAuley

    • 01/Jul/2022 18:13:11

    Scutt snr is a manager at Grey Well brewery, not a Reverend

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    Niall McAuley

    • 01/Jul/2022 19:26:02

    at his death in 1957 he is recorded as Managing Director Cherry's Brothers (retired)

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    Irish251

    • 01/Jul/2022 19:44:43

    Note Scutt Snr's shoes - definitely in need of a visit to the shoemaker.

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    John Spooner

    • 01/Jul/2022 19:45:13

    New Ross Standard - Friday 25 June 1937. The wedding of Dr. William Noel Whiteside, London, and Miss Gwineth Emmline Homer Scutt,https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52187381650_6bc206cd0f_w.jpg" width="290" height="400" alt="<a data-flickr-embed=" title="New Ross Standard - Friday 25 June 1937" /> For those watching in black and white, the brides dress was "an ivory satin gown cut on simple lines, with emphasised shoulders and long-fitting sleeves, a high neck-line and skirt widening into a fan-shaped train. Her veil—a family heirloom—was worn with a wreath of orange blossoms, and it extended beyond her train. She carried a bouquet of pink carnations." The report had this to say about the bride and broom:

    Dr. Whiteside is an eminent physician and surgeon practising in London and his bride is a most accomplished young lady, was educated in London. and her educational successes afford evidence of great talent. She is a great favourite with all who know her.
    and of her parents:
    During the many years that Mr. and Mrs. Scutt have been associated with the town and districts they have won a very high place in popular esteem, and the people of this part of the country were glad to avail of the opportunity of testifying on this felicitous occasion of the marriage of their daughter their very high regard for them.

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    John Spooner

    • 01/Jul/2022 20:19:32

    Rodney became an actor. New Ross Standard - Friday 10 December 1937

    A Narrow Escape—Both Mr. Rodney Homer Scutt the actor-son of Mr. D. Homer Scutt, of Creywell, New Ross, and his mother who is in London paying hint a visit, had a narrow escape on Thursday evening of last week when travelling from their hotel in Kensington to see a friend in South London. It was a drenching wet night and the vehicle skidded on the wet street from one side to the other. Luckily, it did not overturn, although windows were shattered, nor were any of the passengers hurt. and Mr. Scutt and his mother were able to resume their journey.
    His obituary in Thursday 02 February 1989 said he appeared in "Hamlet" in Dublin with Orson Wells, and in a number of movies.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 01/Jul/2022 21:06:19

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Reverend tag removed.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 01/Jul/2022 21:10:02

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner I like the Orson Wells connection! Mary

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 01/Jul/2022 23:00:07

    Six months after this photo young George was awarded the Military Cross (MC). Presumably he would be wearing it if he already had it. From the Supplement to the London Gazette, 22 June 1918 (p. 7422) - www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/30761/supplement/7422/d...

    Lt. George Howard Homer Scutt, Gen. List, and R.F.C. For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to duty. He has destroyed one hostile machine, and driven down three others out of control. He carried out an important single-machine reconnaissance, frequently descending to a height of 100 feet under heavy rifle and machine-gun fire, and obtained valuable information. While returning he attacked 5 enemy machines, and ably assisted his pilot in driving them back over their lines. He has carried out many successful photographic reconnaissances, and has at all times proved to be a keen and daring officer.

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    John Spooner

    • 02/Jul/2022 05:59:06

    The New Ross Standard in 1936 mentions several films in which Rodney recently appeared. Three of them have an entry in imdb, but Rodney's role evidently wasn't big enough to warrant a credit. He appeared in the battlement scene in "When knights were bold" (1936) but without credit. 8 minutes of "When Knights were Bold" on youtube I guess his attempt to make the big time in films in the 1930s wasn't successful, and his obituary and an interview in 1986 suggest his carrier was spent on the stage, mostly in productions of Shakespeare plays.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Jul/2022 06:15:41

    Craywell brewery, not Grey Well

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Jul/2022 06:22:25

    Craywell House and brewery are marked on the 25" and 1930s Cassini maps, on the riverbank just North of New Ross. Craywell Road is still there

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Jul/2022 07:24:25

    in 1901 William Cherry is in Craywell with his (2nd?) wife and 2 daughters, all born in India, and a 5 year old son born in Wexford. he is a retired deputy surgeon General, I don't think he has been managing the brewery.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Jul/2022 07:28:28

    Arthur Cherry, brewer, died in 1893, brother William present

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Jul/2022 07:31:29

    William is at Craywell for the birth of Ralph in 1895, occupation Surgeon General AMS.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 02/Jul/2022 09:27:32

    Craywell House and Brewery spotted in this Lawrence photo - https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/43308118032/in/photostream/

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    John Spooner

    • 02/Jul/2022 10:35:18

    I think the reverend gentleman might be Rev Henry Tripp, who was listed among the guests at the 1937 wedding. Given that Mrs Scutt's maiden name was Tripp, could he be the brother/uncle of others in the photo? Edit: Or possibly the Rev John Tripp (see below) Further edit: No. Rev John Tripp died 1900.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Jul/2022 10:43:23

    Cherry Brothers Ltd, Creywell Brewery, New Ross, Co Wexford, Ireland. Founded 1830. Registered October 1906. Acquired by Guinness in 1952 and renamed New Ross Brewery Ltd. Ceased brewing 1954. Bloody monopolists,

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Jul/2022 10:45:03

    From Twitter: Cherry's Brewery New Ross where #JFK gt grandfather worked as a cooper before emigrating to #Boston

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Jul/2022 10:47:03

    Before emigrating, Patrick Kennedy had been employed by Cherry Brothers Brewery in New Ross and the skills that he learned there stood to him in the United States. He found employment as a cooper at Daniel Francis’s on Sumner Street, Boston, where he made beer and whiskey barrels. Patrick Kennedy did his best to provide for the young family he started in the United States, having married another Wexford emigrant, Bridget Murphy, only five months after arriving in America.

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    John Spooner

    • 02/Jul/2022 11:09:18

    Hmm. The list of wedding presents at the Tripp-Scutt wedding includes a large pair of cushions from the Rev John Tripp who died in 1900 Another wedding notice says that Emmie was the daughter of the late Rev H Tripp. Yet another report of the wedding (Weston-super-Mare Gazette, and General Advertiser - Saturday 01 May 1897) says the wedding was performed by the Rev H.H. Tripp (brother of the bride ) and the Rev A. O. Scutt (brother of the bridegroom). So that strengthens the case that the pictured reverend gentleman is Uncle Henry.

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    John Spooner

    • 02/Jul/2022 11:12:29

    The wedding reports also mention "a diamond crescent and diamond and sapphire ring". Is this it? wedding

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 02/Jul/2022 15:17:39

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner it could be the ring!

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    suckindeesel

    • 02/Jul/2022 17:23:11

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Yes, but what’s with the collar?

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 02/Jul/2022 21:45:58

    Imho the gentleman at right is not a Reverend; his 'dog collar' has a split up the front, and he is wearing a loose neck tie (see megazoom). Not very CofE. And Mr Scutt would surely not order a photo from Mr Poole showing his family with his brother-in-law, and omit himself. It is strange that he is wearing those scruffy muddy gaiters, but they would probably have been vignetted out in a print, like the Poole carpet. Mrs Scutt is a picture of 1918 elegance in her hand-painted silk(?) gown. I wonder what colours? And is that the crescent diamond brooch she is wearing on her, er, um, cleavage? As sometimes happens, I have been sucked right into this photo and the stories it tells. Thanks, https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 03/Jul/2022 08:20:29

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I am inclined to agree with https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia about the collar, there is a definite gap which does not suggest clergy.

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    • 28/Jul/2022 18:50:10

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