Derry is a place of great history and much need for remembrance and so a "Memorial Hall" seems very appropriate. What do we know about this hall and if it still stands what is it used for now?
In L_CAB_03655 we are looking up the street, and can see the First Presbyterian church before it got its 1903 Tetrastyle Roman Corinthian Portico. Would the portico be visible here if present? Hard to say.
But check the lamps on the pillars outside that church - in todays they are clearly square gas lanterns, in 03655 they are globes.
foyle civic trust has a different reverse view with the portico and square gas lamps, quoting 1910.
And L_ROY_02886 is another reverse view, no portico, squared lamps.
So maybe the round lamp one is the earliest?
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
19/Apr/2022 09:07:24
The wall and iron railing around the graveyard to the right are relatively recent. They are not yet rebuilt in this reverse-ish view - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000338526 .
And in another later one from the same angle there is an enormous electric lamp-post on the corner - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000323838
ie today's photo is between the other visits.
I wonder who the important looking short(?) gent in the bowler hat is?
Niall McAuley
19/Apr/2022 09:30:10
There is apparently a column on Derry being late to adopt electric lighting here, but some sort of firewall is keeping me out.
Niall McAuley
19/Apr/2022 09:39:34
In the 1901 census, there is a David Norrie, 49, cabinet maker, living in the hall with his family. He is still there in 1911 too.
He gave the hall as his address for his 2nd marriage in 1897.
An article about David Norrie, not much new there though: Information is rather sparse on David senior until 28 June 1897
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
19/Apr/2022 12:56:19
I think this photo is before 1892, because the very tall electric street lamp (like those in O'Connell St, Dublin in the 1890s) is not yet there. Seen nearby in c. 1902 - [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/51102400457/]
And see comments here about Derry Corporation opening a power station in 1892* - [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/24181075274/]
* From - www.historyireland.com/20th-century-contemporary-history/...
Now, when did the church rebuild their wall ... ?
Aidrean S
26/Apr/2022 14:54:57
The Apprentice Boys of Derry Association is established for the purpose of commemorating the anniversaries of the shutting of the Gates and the Relief of Londonderry.
The Hall was opened in 1877, dedicated to the memory of the thirteen Apprentice Boys who closed the City gates in 1688. The Memorial Hall and museum is dedicated to the history and heritage of the Siege of Londonderry 1688-1689.
The building is neo-gothic, with a strong Scottish baronial façade. It contains fine examples of meeting rooms for each of the Loyal Orders (Orange Lodge and Royal Black Preceptory); while its museum contains local artefacts and video presentations relating to the Siege of Londonderry and the Apprentice Boys Association.
Taken from its main website.
Niall McAuley
The Apprentice Boys Memorial Hall. Still there, I can't get quite this angle in Streetview.
Niall McAuley
Per the DIA, opened 1877, extended 1935-37.
Niall McAuley
L_ROY_04317 nearby in the catalogue is a general view of Derry and includes the clock face in the guildhall from 1891
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Flickr is sometimes amazing! In 2015 via https://www.flickr.com/photos/teetwo/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/teetwo/22176447016/ I am sure we have discussed this building and its extensions before, but cannot find where ...
Niall McAuley
In L_CAB_03655 we are looking up the street, and can see the First Presbyterian church before it got its 1903 Tetrastyle Roman Corinthian Portico. Would the portico be visible here if present? Hard to say. But check the lamps on the pillars outside that church - in todays they are clearly square gas lanterns, in 03655 they are globes. foyle civic trust has a different reverse view with the portico and square gas lamps, quoting 1910. And L_ROY_02886 is another reverse view, no portico, squared lamps. So maybe the round lamp one is the earliest?
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
The wall and iron railing around the graveyard to the right are relatively recent. They are not yet rebuilt in this reverse-ish view - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000338526 . And in another later one from the same angle there is an enormous electric lamp-post on the corner - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000323838 ie today's photo is between the other visits. I wonder who the important looking short(?) gent in the bowler hat is?
Niall McAuley
There is apparently a column on Derry being late to adopt electric lighting here, but some sort of firewall is keeping me out.
Niall McAuley
In the 1901 census, there is a David Norrie, 49, cabinet maker, living in the hall with his family. He is still there in 1911 too. He gave the hall as his address for his 2nd marriage in 1897. An article about David Norrie, not much new there though: Information is rather sparse on David senior until 28 June 1897
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
I think this photo is before 1892, because the very tall electric street lamp (like those in O'Connell St, Dublin in the 1890s) is not yet there. Seen nearby in c. 1902 - [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/51102400457/] And see comments here about Derry Corporation opening a power station in 1892* - [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/24181075274/] * From - www.historyireland.com/20th-century-contemporary-history/... Now, when did the church rebuild their wall ... ?
Aidrean S
The Apprentice Boys of Derry Association is established for the purpose of commemorating the anniversaries of the shutting of the Gates and the Relief of Londonderry. The Hall was opened in 1877, dedicated to the memory of the thirteen Apprentice Boys who closed the City gates in 1688. The Memorial Hall and museum is dedicated to the history and heritage of the Siege of Londonderry 1688-1689. The building is neo-gothic, with a strong Scottish baronial façade. It contains fine examples of meeting rooms for each of the Loyal Orders (Orange Lodge and Royal Black Preceptory); while its museum contains local artefacts and video presentations relating to the Siege of Londonderry and the Apprentice Boys Association. Taken from its main website.