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If that is Mrs. Sheehan of Lady Lane in Waterford then that is an amazing figure for a woman with seven children, corset or no corset! A really fine family group from the Poole Collection today with a really healthy looking family, a proud father and a remarkable woman!

Photographer: A. H. Poole

Collection: Poole Photographic Studio, Waterford

Date: ca. 1 July 1904

NLI Ref: POOLEWP 1368

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 28/Sep/2021 07:30:41

    1 July 1904 was a Friday ...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Sep/2021 07:46:00

    Not listed on Lady Lane in the census. The only family the right size in Waterford in 1901 is John B. and Pauline Sheehan & 7 children. Looking at the photo, I guess the kids in age order are M,M,F,M,M,F,F? And yes, that is the order in the census, but a) I could be wrong and b) it could be a coincidence. Also notable about the census family is that John B. is 68 to his wife's 40 - this does look possible.

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    derangedlemur

    • 28/Sep/2021 07:56:50

    They're a tough enough looking mob.

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    derangedlemur

    • 28/Sep/2021 08:00:50

    They may be from an institution of some sort, which might explain the haircuts and the lack of Sheehans on Lady Lane.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Sep/2021 08:04:29

    John dies in Nov 1910, address WIlliam Street.

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    derangedlemur

    • 28/Sep/2021 08:06:32

    Or it could be the Sheehans of Dunmore road, who have the requisite numbers. Edit: Late again!

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    derangedlemur

    • 28/Sep/2021 08:09:17

    He's a retired RIC man in the census, so maybe the address is the constabulary barrack on Lady Lane.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Sep/2021 08:11:09

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] They moved a lot, for young Catherine's birth in June 1900, their address was Newtown Buildings. Mother's maiden name allegedly PEIRCE. No further Sheehan Peirce children in the records to throw the numbers off before 1904.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 28/Sep/2021 08:13:22

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] He died in 1910 in William St.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 28/Sep/2021 08:17:56

    Margaret was born in Sligo.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Sep/2021 08:21:44

    Pauline is listed in 1911 as Lena Sheehan, living in Dublin. 11(!) children total, 7 living in 1911.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Sep/2021 08:31:17

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet John B. looks to be retired in 1898 - listed as Ex Inspector on Margarets record, and as Gentleman on Catherines. He was born in Waterford City, looks as if he returned there in retirement - the children were born in Kilkenny, Sligo before Waterford. Lena was from Co. Galway.

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    derangedlemur

    • 28/Sep/2021 08:34:15

    Looking at the original household return, I think he was the County Inspector. Hard to tell though; the enumerator's handwriting is not good.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 28/Sep/2021 08:57:37

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] He's an ex-county inspector on Margaret's birth record too, whereas on Peirce's he's the RIC County Inspector in Sligo in 1892. Same for Francis in Kilkenny in in 1889.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Sep/2021 09:09:39

    They were married in Dublin (Gardiner St), although his residence was Carrick on Shannon and hers Tullamore.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 28/Sep/2021 09:22:01

    According to the Larne Times of 10 August 1912, Lena Sheehan was shortly to marry Mr. S.M. Sayers of Surrey, England. She was the daughter of John Pierce M.A. TCD, JP Acres Hall, Tullamore.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 28/Sep/2021 09:25:28

    There are references to Mr Sheehan and Mrs Sheehan in Lady Lane in various newspapers in 1904-6, but there are no first names. (It's mostly things like subscriptions, and committees.)

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Sep/2021 09:32:48

    John may have served in the Merchant Navy in his younger years according to Wikitree

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    Frank Fullard

    • 28/Sep/2021 11:27:30

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ that makes sense as the RIC people tended to be moved about quite a bit. I note elsewhere some of the birth places of the children. Also based on where they were married were Catholics as the church in Gardener Street is a Jesuit one. The fact that it is not a Parish Church would also suggest a pair who are subject to transfer from place.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Sep/2021 15:57:16

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet] Record of the marriage of Lena Sheehan and William Sayers in April 1913, widow and bachelor. Witnesses P.M Sheehan (Pierce, would be 20 by then) and Catherine Mary Pierce, a sister?

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    ---BradS---

    • 28/Sep/2021 15:59:47

    the gentleman is not wearing a wedding ring?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Sep/2021 16:12:05

    I don't see a record of the death of Pauline or Lena Sayers - they may all have moved to England?