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Monkey Morgan was flying high over a shiny new hospital but where was/is it? Don't be fooled by the neighbours because they can easily mislead you and lead you up blind alleys!!!!

Photographer: Alexander Campbell “Monkey” Morgan

Collection: Morgan Aerial Photographic Collection

Date: ca. 1954 -1957

NLI Ref: NPA MOR954

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    DannyM8

    • 09/Sep/2021 08:14:26

    There is a microscopic Dog!

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    Foxglove

    • 09/Sep/2021 08:31:38

    where micro dog ?? I can't see it

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 09/Sep/2021 08:44:18

    Strange - no sign of activity except for the man and his dog, yet the laundry is drying on the washing lines (right side). Must be brand new, yet no workmen fiddling around.

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    cargeofg

    • 09/Sep/2021 08:56:17

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove See note on photo. https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia My thoughts as well and no cars parked either. Lawns established and even growth. Bedding plants in the borders either side of front door. Early spring time as trees in the background are not in full leaf.

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    Foxglove

    • 09/Sep/2021 09:04:20

    truely, the centre of the town has really seen better days ! I see the note, not sure if that is a dog - the "posture" is more like a (dont say it !) cat - Overall there are sheep in town but no people! and there are no long shadows so it would not be very early morning

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    sharon.corbet

    • 09/Sep/2021 09:21:31

    I think this might be Our Lady's Hospital, Cashel. With the building to the left now gone.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 09/Sep/2021 09:36:15

    Google Satellite View The Rock of Cashel would be at the top of the photo. St. Dominic's Abbey, the courthouse and the Bishop's Palace are all visible.

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    rpgvlwqt88

    • 09/Sep/2021 09:41:04

    Edward Lovett Pearce's Cashel Palace (1732) in the background is unmistakeable www.archiseek.com/2012/palace-cashel/ [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/2826861381/] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/fotosbyjohnh/13546360015/]

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    sharon.corbet

    • 09/Sep/2021 09:44:24

    The Military Archives have an aerial photo of the Rock, which overlaps with the top part of this image.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 09/Sep/2021 10:08:53

    Our Lady's building (the one on the right) is at the NIAH, dated 1934-1940, so finished 15 years before this shot, so well open.

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    suckindeesel

    • 09/Sep/2021 10:32:03

    The County Hospital Cashel, as it was then known. Hospital on right, nurse's home on left?

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    sharon.corbet

    • 09/Sep/2021 10:47:58

    It was designed by Vincent Kelly in the International Style. The nurses home was demolished in 2002.

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    John Spooner

    • 09/Sep/2021 10:54:47

    The building of the hospital was not without controversy. From a speech by Colonel J. Ryan (Fine Gael), Tipperary in Dail debate on the Estimate for Local Government reported in the Midland Counties Advertiser on Thursday 13 April 1939. Controversy - but Col. Ryan seems to be admitting that much of it might be tittle-tattle.

    There is the case of the Cashel county hospital. about which I put down a question some time ago. People are beginning to talk a lot about that: a lot of foolish talk goes on, I admit. This hospital was started—perhaps it should never have been startedover four years ago. The contract was to be finished in two years, but it is not yet finished. the work was carried on in a defective way from the beginning. The lowest tender did not get the contract for that hospital. In addition, the terms of the contract were not carried out, because, according to the contract, the stones and other materials belonging to the old hospital were to be piled up and were to be the property of the county council. To the knowledge of some of the leading lights of Fianna Fall the stones of that hospital were sold to another contractor. That hospital is not yet finished, but the contractor for it has now got another contract in addition to that one. That second contract was never advertised and that contractor got it, although the work he was doing was defective and he has not yet finished the first contract. As I say, it was never advertised and nobody knows what the Price is. The Minister and his Department have some responsibility in a matter like that. I do not care who is concerned with it in the Department, the responsibility must be placed somewhere.

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    John Spooner

    • 09/Sep/2021 11:11:56

    When the hospital was proposed in 1932, it was said that it would cost £100,000 to build and equip. Two thirds of this amount would come from the sweep, and approx £33,000 would come from the rates of South Tipperary. Upkeep and running the hospital would be £10,000 a year. (Waterford Standard - Saturday 10 December 1932)

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    suckindeesel

    • 09/Sep/2021 12:01:37

    £73,232 received from the Hospital's Trust (the Sweepstakes) according to their 1955 report www.lenus.ie/bitstream/handle/10147/316728/Ireland's+Hosp... The hospital had 90 beds and replaced an older one.

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    suckindeesel

    • 09/Sep/2021 12:47:23

    Google Earth Link earth.app.goo.gl/5fMjqr #googleearth

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    Swordscookie

    • 09/Sep/2021 13:01:14

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove That CAT has just cocked his leg against the pillar which is remarkable as they rarely do that:-)

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 09/Sep/2021 14:45:39

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet Map updated, well done.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 09/Sep/2021 15:00:52

    For my money, that Cat is a Terrier

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    John Spooner

    • 09/Sep/2021 20:51:06

    I think there's a person (see note) standing outside what is now a bank, if I've identified the right building on street view. Or it might be a post box. Or a large dog standing on its hind legs.

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    Flickr

    • 11/Sep/2021 04:15:15

    Congrats on Explore! ⭐ September 10, 2021

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    s0340248

    • 11/Sep/2021 05:05:21

    Glückwunsch zu Explore !

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    "santiago"

    • 11/Sep/2021 06:19:17

    Fantàstic tret en blanc i negre, felicitacions. ⭐👏

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    VIANA BASTO

    • 11/Sep/2021 08:21:15

    Excellent .Congrats on Explore!

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    gato-gato-gato

    • 11/Sep/2021 08:26:49

    Cooles Bild, gefällt mir.

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    • 11/Sep/2021 08:30:55

    Congrats..........

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    lesleydugmore

    • 11/Sep/2021 11:32:04

    Congratulations on explore, have a great weekend

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    dearbhaile2

    • 21/Sep/2021 12:53:37

    they must have had a laundry section , see all the sheets drying to the right of the main building.