Grimly Gothic Gods Gaff

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To a fine Stereo Pairs image of a Gothic church someplace in the country that appears to be newly built. It may be very irreverent but these grim buildings remind me more of places of incarceration rather than places of consolation and worship!

Photographers: Frederick Holland Mares, James Simonton

Contributor: John Fortune Lawrence

Collection: Stereo Pairs Photograph Collection

Date: between ca. 1860-1883

NLI Ref: STP_2010

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 12/Aug/2021 07:54:15

    Same church(?) seen in the background in this nearby item in the catalogue - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000565326 - Dublin

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    derangedlemur

    • 12/Aug/2021 07:54:42

    Is it Balbriggan, seen from the back? Edit: No - the roofline is different

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    O Mac

    • 12/Aug/2021 08:26:45

    Blackrock Co Dublin

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    O Mac

    • 12/Aug/2021 08:27:53

    St John the Baptist maps.app.goo.gl/ZRgrpD2Wqoz6ZoC78

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 12/Aug/2021 08:40:17

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Goody! The companion photo (link above) reminded me of this one {edit - because it is !!} - [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/8966073211/] Is this one also Blackrock? - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000565327

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    John Spooner

    • 12/Aug/2021 08:44:10

    Dedicated on 14th September 1845. Lots of people there for the ceremony:

    "Yesterday the ceremony of the dedication of a church— one of the most solemn and impressive of the Catholic ritual took place at Blackrock, and never on any similar occasion, have we seen more demonstrative evidence of people's love for the Lord's house. " and the place where his glory dwelleth." So early as ten o'clock,though the ceremony was not announced to commence until twelve, the greater parts of the sanctuary, aisle, and gallery, were occupied ; and by each train from Dublin, Kingstown and the intermediate stations on the line came crowds of all classes and persuasions, anxious to witness the interesting ceremonial, and to hear words of hope and promise, and universal charity from the lips of the distinguished preacher—Father Mathew."
    (Freeman's Journal)

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    suckindeesel

    • 12/Aug/2021 08:44:58

    Church opened for use 1845 dublindiocese.ie/parish/blackrock/ No sign of electric tram 1898 25" arcg.is/0vLeeO

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 12/Aug/2021 08:53:01

    Those windows from the inside, in 2008 via [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/2458471323/in/photostream/] [Edit - see also catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000339071 ]

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 12/Aug/2021 09:03:17

    That circular hole for a clock has changed into a square in streetview; still no clock. What happened?!

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 12/Aug/2021 09:24:39

    Same day (by the little tree on the right), and titled "R. C. CHAPEL, BLACKROCK. 1301. W. L." - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000339070

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    sharon.corbet

    • 12/Aug/2021 09:28:23

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Your second photo (STP_2009) is Blackrock too. It's a reverse view of STP_2008 - you can see the same veranda/balcony in both. Here's a slightly updated version of STP_2009.

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    CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY

    • 12/Aug/2021 09:35:48

    'It may be very irreverent but these grim buildings remind me more of places of incarceration rather than places of consolation and worship!' It probably depends upon which side of the alter you are on or upon your experience growing up in that environment.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 12/Aug/2021 09:40:03

    The DIA has a list of changes and proposals, but nothing about tower clock hole shapes.

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    Swordscookie

    • 12/Aug/2021 10:26:13

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ so much for God's Grisly Gaff

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    Niall McAuley

    • 12/Aug/2021 15:10:47

    A google search shows a postcard of the church featuring the square clock hole, and people dressed in 1900ish clothing. Not much help.

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    Domhnallcos

    • 12/Aug/2021 19:40:52

    The church is on Temple road, but the back entrance, as in this photo, is on Newton Ave., Newtown being the original name of the village. Blackrock was the nickname, on account of a large rock of black limestone. This was blown up by Mr Dargan to run his railway. Newtown Ave was also renamed Main St. in the 1990s as people were confusing it with Newtownpark Ave. The original design was by Pugin, but the architect who built it was Patrick Byrne, in 1842. It was dedicated on 14 September 1845 by Daniel Murray, Archbishop of Dublin. The sacristy and side chapel were added in 1850.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 12/Aug/2021 21:51:51

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] I have read about Daniel Murray, he seemd like a nice person. [https://www.flickr.com/photos/swordscookie] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] The following from wikibedia - Daniel Murray (1768, at Sheepwalk, near Arklow, Ireland - at Dublin, 1852) was a Roman Catholic Archbishop of Dublin. In 1809, at the request of Archbishop Troy, Murray was appointed coadjutor bishop, and consecrated on 30 November 1809. In 1811 he was made Administrator of St. Andrew’s. That same year he helped Mary Aikenhead establish the Religious Sisters of Charity. While coadjutor he filled for one year the position of president of St Patrick's College, Maynooth. Murray was an uncompromising opponent of a proposal granting the British government a "veto" over Catholic ecclesiastical appointments in Ireland, and in 1814 and 1815, made two separate trips to Rome concerning the controversy. Daniel Murray, archbishop of Dublin Murray became Archbishop of Dublin in 1825 and on 14 November 1825 celebrated the completion of St Mary's Pro-Cathedral. He enjoyed the confidence of successive popes, and was held in high respect by the British government. His life was mainly devoted to ecclesiastical affairs, the establishment and organisation of religious associations for the education and relief of the poor. With the outbreak of cholera in the 1830s, in 1834 he and Mother Aikenhead founded St. Vincent’s Hospital. Murray persuaded Edmund Rice to send members of the Christian Brothers to Dublin to start a school for boys. The first was opened in a lumber yard on the City-quay. He assisted Catherine McAuley in founding the Sisters of Mercy, and in 1831 professed the first three members.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 13/Aug/2021 09:13:14

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet] Thank you. [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] It may be that there were wooden shutters like a clock in the old photos. Round pegs and square holes etc etc "... To the rear of the church [ie this aspect], two carved heads can be seen up high on either side of the rose window. The head on the left depicts St. John the Baptist, while the head on the right depicts the Archbishop Daniel Murray." [see note] From - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._John_the_Baptist,_Blackrock