Montree, Athlone, Co. Westmeath

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Where: Leinster, County Westmeath, Ireland

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While looking at this photo during catalogue selection it struck me as a very modern image for the Lawrence collection. I suspect that we will be much nearer the end of the date range rather than the start. The fishing boat in the little inlet will not help with dating as the design of these boats does not seem to change over the years, you could buy a boat very similar in design today and the only difference would be a strengthened stern section to accommodate a small outboard engine.

Photographer: Robert French

Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection

Date: Circa 1865 - 1914

NLI Ref: L_ROY_05258

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    derangedlemur

    • 26/Jul/2021 06:29:12

    It's not that late - there's no St Kieran's Terrace in it, so it's pre-25".

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    derangedlemur

    • 26/Jul/2021 06:34:44

    On the other hand, it's post-6"

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    derangedlemur

    • 26/Jul/2021 06:37:44

    Judging by the catalogue, it's contemporary with this one: www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/50393006596/in/photolist-...

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    derangedlemur

    • 26/Jul/2021 06:43:24

    May as well have a bit of streetview - Montree: goo.gl/maps/kSXAGaMLJWpSdh1U7 Today's shot: goo.gl/maps/LrHGG2nffc6wjNkY8

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 26/Jul/2021 06:50:41

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Thanks, are we looking at Roscommon rather than Westmeath?

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    derangedlemur

    • 26/Jul/2021 06:58:53

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Taken from Roscommon looking into Westmeath, according to the map. Assuming the camera is on the shore.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 26/Jul/2021 07:04:04

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Of course.

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    derangedlemur

    • 26/Jul/2021 07:28:31

    It's not a very nice looking building these days, and it looks like the NIAH thinks so too.

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    derangedlemur

    • 26/Jul/2021 07:30:04

    Oooh, and there was a norrible murder there in 2000. As it is traditional for beachcomber to post the details, I'll leave that to him.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 26/Jul/2021 07:56:21

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia I always thought https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner was our "prophet of doom" in chief.

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    derangedlemur

    • 26/Jul/2021 08:07:06

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Well, whichever. I thought they always came from Trove, which is an Australian archive.

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    John Spooner

    • 26/Jul/2021 08:09:44

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] 2000 is a bit late for me, but I'll have a shufti.

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    John Spooner

    • 26/Jul/2021 08:16:37

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Is this the one?

    SON IN FRENZIED KILLING 'THOUGHT DAD WAS A WITCH' A MENTALLY-ill man accused of killing his father believed his father was part of a coven of witches, a court heard today. Kevin Parker (45) also believed he was chosen by God to be the saviour of the second coming and was being pursued by witches in England and had been "bounced from wall to wall by Jesus", a murder trial jury in the Central Criminal Court heard. Kevin Parker, of Montree House in Athlone, Co Wistmeath, has pleaded not guilty to the murder of his father John Parker (75) in Glasson Village near Athlone in September 2000. State Pathologist John Harbison told the court John Parker died as a result of a frenzied knife attack that left him with more than 20 serious stab wounds to his face and neck. Prosecutor Kenneth Mills told the jury Kevin Parker was mentally ill and had delusions at the time of the attack. The jury must decide if a verdict of "guilty but insane" was appropriate. Mr Mills said he would be producing witnesses who would testify , that Kevin Parker was seriously mentally unwell at the time of the attack. Mr Parker believed "his father was in a group of persons whose design was to destroy the world unless they were stopped," added Mr Mills. The trial continues.
    (Evening Herald (Dublin) - Thursday 23 October 2003)

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 26/Jul/2021 08:21:50

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner I hope it is the correct murder and that there is not one more horrible!

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    derangedlemur

    • 26/Jul/2021 08:30:27

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland That's the one. I was vaguely hoping there actually might be a better one with a bit more of a patina of age on it. As https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner says, 2000 is a bit recent to properly appreciate without seeming like a maniac. Edit: I say this for other peoples' benefit, btw. You know me - I don't take much of an interest in human interest stories.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 26/Jul/2021 08:56:45

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Agreed.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 26/Jul/2021 09:14:07

    Nothing interesting in Trove. I think there are copyright restrictions for re-publishing anything less than 50 years old. And the search thingy keeps thinking of the French montrée, "feminine singular of the past participle of montrer." That new-ish water(?) tower behind - does that get a mention in old local newspapers?

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    derangedlemur

    • 26/Jul/2021 09:19:37

    It gets a mention on the map, if that helps - Reservoir (Covered) (Athlone U.D.C.) The waterworks seem to be missing from the foreground, though. That would help with the dating, maybe.

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    derangedlemur

    • 26/Jul/2021 09:22:05

    www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/15004... Built C 1900 (or 1890-1910, depending), so we're before that.

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    derangedlemur

    • 26/Jul/2021 09:23:07

    Mind you, it could be just out of shot in the left foreground. And in the related shot of the pier, it could be just out of shot on the right. catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000322230

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    derangedlemur

    • 26/Jul/2021 09:29:07

    Here's where the tank was: www.google.ie/maps/@53.4297101,-7.9416373,60m/data=!3m1!1e3

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/Jul/2021 11:24:14

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ given the tank and house angle, might be taken from the railway bridge?

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    derangedlemur

    • 26/Jul/2021 11:33:06

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] I think the inlet would be further right, but maybe... goo.gl/maps/zXaaK9jiozQcrsCd7

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 26/Jul/2021 12:48:10

    Here's a red herring - Mr French / Lawrence took several photos of the railway bridge, or sometimes called "viaduct". This one - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000338025 - shows that Bill Posters has been busy on the bridge columns. Great posters of the Dominion Line (1870-1908) with a sailing ship (c. 1890?) - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Line . And a marvelous cartoonish poster for "Mr Chas Sullivan, Irish Contortionist"[?]. I could not find anything about him, but [https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner/] will . . .

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    AGodenot

    • 26/Jul/2021 13:13:31

    such a sad and lonely place, i checked out the google link, there is hardly anything left of this place now.

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    derangedlemur

    • 26/Jul/2021 13:53:38

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Looks like it could actually be from the end of the station once you take a ruler to it - www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/51336621548/in/dateposted/ Reference points are the front door and the inlet just right of the big square stone. Edit: I've taken a few more sighting lines and the photo would appear to have been taken from a few yards north of the bridge in the bit of the river marked as swampy.

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    John Spooner

    • 26/Jul/2021 15:22:21

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Sadly not contortionist, but combination. Ulster Examiner and Northern Star - 20 Nov 1880: sullivan Both Myles-na-Coppaleen and Cruiskeen Lawn mentioned. Not a coincidence - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flann_O%27Brien#Etymology But here is a 'joke' about an Irish contortionist anyway, from The Era - Saturday 19 January 1895.

    AN Irish contortionist was travelling the other day on a northern line when the train stopped. Looking out of the window, he inquired of the guard the cause of the delay. "I really don't know, sir; the signal's against us. I suppose the traffic is dislocated some- where." "Dislocated, is it, begorra. I'm a dislocator, my friend; and if your company copy my act I'll bring an injunction."

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    suckindeesel

    • 26/Jul/2021 17:20:54

    The 25" surveyed 1888, shows no St Kieran's Terrace, so pre '88?

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 26/Jul/2021 21:28:13

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner Brilliant nevertheless!

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 27/Jul/2021 07:23:21

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Quite brilliant!

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 27/Jul/2021 07:24:18

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Great job yesterday, thanks for all the work. Mary