The Industrial School at Cappoquin, Co. Waterford.

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Any photo of an Irish "Industrial School" reminds us of the awful reports which we have read from inquiries which happened years after most of the people shown in this photo had passed away. There are not many smiles to be seen, smiles were not part of photography then, and I think it is fair to say that smiles were probably not a big part of their lives at that time either.

Photographer: Robert French

Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection

Date: Circa 186576 - 1914

NLI Ref: L_CAB_01437

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 14/Jul/2021 07:17:03

    One of the worst, evidently - "St Michael’s Industrial School Cappoquin, Co Waterford Opened:1877 Status:Closed 1999 Management:Sisters of Mercy THE STORY of St Michael’s Industrial School in Cappoquin is characterised by physical and sexual abuse, a dysfunctional managing nun with an alcohol problem and severe underfeeding in the early years. The Sisters of Mercy school opened in 1877 as a conventional industrial school but became a group home in 1974. The inquiry found that the children were “severely underfed for a long period in the 1940s and 1950s”. However, it was the era of the group home that gave rise to the most complaints. A nun with the pseudonym Sr Callida was put in charge of Group Home A in 1975 but staff became “increasingly alarmed” at how she ran the home. She had an alcohol problem, drank in front of the children and went absent for days without notice, leaving a young woman in charge of 16 young children. ... ... ..." From - www.irishtimes.com/news/most-complaints-concerned-physica...

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 14/Jul/2021 07:21:07

    More here - im2.studioaad.webfactional.com/ryan-report/report/2-8?page=1

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 14/Jul/2021 07:34:09

    "The State and society must never presume that because a child has been placed in care, he or she is safe from any form of abuse." From a personal story by Paddy Doyle, see - www.independent.ie/irish-news/i-was-abused-in-same-instit...

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 14/Jul/2021 08:38:58

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Your comments link to some grim reading.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 14/Jul/2021 08:45:52

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] Yes, I am sorry about that; it actually put me off my dinner. Has anyone found where this was? Part of the Mt St Joseph Convent? - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000317440

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 14/Jul/2021 08:56:01

    Found it! Still standing. Near where the railway station was - goo.gl/maps/x9jSmBq5jg1B35Vf9

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 14/Jul/2021 09:24:58

    crocodile noun C (LINE) UK informal a line of people, especially children, who are walking in pairs Never smile at a crocodile ... !

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 14/Jul/2021 09:30:05

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia I have mapped it.

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    Carol Maddock

    • 14/Jul/2021 13:21:39

    I found an application in 1881 from the "Manager of the Cappoquin Industrial School from maintenance of 24 boys, £62 3s" in Waterford News & Star, 22 July 1881. A lot more than 24 boys here...

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    suckindeesel

    • 14/Jul/2021 14:05:25

    On the 25" of 1904 arcg.is/1SvaKm

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    Niall McAuley

    • 14/Jul/2021 16:39:27

    To me, at least, the building looks rather new, I don't think we are much later than 1880

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    Niall McAuley

    • 14/Jul/2021 16:53:40

    In the census in 1901, there are 61 boys aged from 4 up to 10 and 5 nuns, a Matron, Nurse, Cook and a Laundress.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 14/Jul/2021 21:47:52

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Yes, thinking it's about 1890 from the women's frocks and severe centre-parting hairstyles, the gent's bowler hat (Mr Wackford Squeers, schoolmaster of Dotheboys Hall !), and the 'condensed' script on the titling. The school was mentioned in Parliament Hansard in 1887; the local MP wanting to increase the number of boys from 50 to 70. Impenetrable political reply - api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1887/apr/28/in... I like how the boys get smaller and younger towards the back of the crocodile; reminds me of the pecking order at my own schools. Or is it an optical illusion ?!

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 14/Jul/2021 22:00:04

    [Aside] Dotheboys Hall 1841 - www.bl.uk/collection-items/photographic-reproduction-of-d... " ... the school looks fairly unremarkable, but newspaper reports, letters from parents, and Dickens’s novel all provide a more vivid picture of the treatment and living conditions inside."

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    Niall McAuley

    • 15/Jul/2021 08:16:46

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia I think the boys are arranged in order of age. If anything like the census, 10 year olds to the front, 4 year olds at the back.