Alice in Ponderland

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Alice Milligan appears to be pondering the meaning of life in this image which, if in colour, would no doubt be full of greenery! After yesterdays memorial to a tragedy which went in Explore it is good to remember those who lived on. Who was Alice and where was Alice?
(Those of you who know the song will know that I am tempted)

Photographers: Various

Collection: Irish Personalities Photographic Collection

Date: Circa 1880 - 1920

NLI Ref: NPA PERS51

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
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    Niall McAuley

    • 06/Jul/2021 07:53:40

    She has a long wikipedia page. Born in 1865, she looks an adult here, so after 1885?

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    Bernard Healy

    • 06/Jul/2021 08:06:20

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley There's another photograph circulating of her with Anna Johnston in which she looks quite a bit younger. Given that they were associated with each other from about 1893, I think it likely that our picture can't be much earlier than 1900, and is probably later.

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    derangedlemur

    • 06/Jul/2021 08:23:10

    The bridge looks familiar, but I can't think where I've seen it. There's rhododendrons everywhere, so that narrows it down to all of Ireland.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 06/Jul/2021 08:28:59

    The notes in the catalogue state that the picture was a gift from Joseph Holloway. Mind you, it also says Joly Collection, which is from 1863.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 06/Jul/2021 08:40:02

    Flickr is sometimes amazing! Alice was here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/ulsterhistorycircle/5790036826/Click through for details. Via https://www.flickr.com/photos/ulsterhistorycircle/ And now she is resting in peace here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/3834595944/Via https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Drumragh Old Graveyard, not far from Omagh

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    Niall McAuley

    • 06/Jul/2021 09:07:27

    Alice in the 1901 census in Belfast, and in with her parents in 1911 in Bangor. Record of Alice's birth Interesting that in 1901, one of her housemates is Eleanor Boyd, and 40 years later, per that wikipedia page During the Second World War, after the death of her sister-in-law, Milligan went to live on a farm in County Antrim with her lifelong friend, Eleanor Boyd.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 06/Jul/2021 09:08:18

    Short interesting 2013 film about Alice - youtu.be/JoivuRdDf7M It looks like her gravestone has been restored since the photo above.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 06/Jul/2021 09:46:49

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia I liked the video.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 06/Jul/2021 10:19:19

    Streetview of that blue plaque on Omagh library.

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    mrrobertwade (wadey)

    • 06/Jul/2021 11:49:54

    I mis-read this as "Alice in Poundland" !

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    suckindeesel

    • 06/Jul/2021 12:15:51

    'She loved no other place but Ireland'. From her gravestone

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 06/Jul/2021 15:41:54

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/rossendalewadey Very good.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 06/Jul/2021 16:26:27

    Streetview of Drumragh Old Graveyard, I think I can make out her headstone.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 06/Jul/2021 22:05:03

    [Next day] I thought you would all have the date and location sorted for this by now! I think Alice is nudging 40 and her coat and hat look c. 1905 -ish ?? Via Trove a couple of newspaper cuttings from many mentions - A "stirring speech" (true!) to a "monster meeting" of the '98 Commemoration Committee in Dundalk - trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/115388647 And her description of a walk around Dublin in 1898 with James Connolly, including how Liberty Hall got its name - trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/104366503 Ed. - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Connolly

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    derangedlemur

    • 07/Jul/2021 08:10:33

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia If the bridge is in the republic, it's not heritage. Finding it is going to be down to memory and my memory is not what it was.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 07/Jul/2021 08:43:39

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I wonder if it is not a bridge, but a balustrade in a park of a gothicky big house or university? Because of the abundant plants. Those openings are just the right size for a child to crawl through and fall into the abyss beyond ...

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    derangedlemur

    • 07/Jul/2021 08:50:03

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] I'd definitely expect that it's in the grounds of a house or a park, but it appears to be on a fairly steep slope and you tend to get water at the bottom of those. Something like this only more gothic: catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000595045

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    Inverarra

    • 07/Jul/2021 16:59:30

    Alice visited the Aran islands aboard the S.S. Caloric in 1895. Aboard was a group of antiquarians who had travelled down the west coast after leaving Belfast. The group was led by her father Seaton Millican. Alice is a much underrated figure from those times.