It’s a long road to Tipperary

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When: 01 January 1893

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Having visited the home of the current All Ireland Hurling Champions yesterday, today we move to their great rivals, the Premier County, and the town of that name.

We have seen Tipperary before but never this particular view with the winding road leading to the town. Could this Lawrence Royal plate have been taken from a railway embankment? And would that help with dating?

Photographer: Robert French

Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection

Date: Circa 1865 1892-1914

NLI Ref: L_ROY_02580

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    Niall McAuley

    • 22/Apr/2021 08:05:07

    From a railway embankment, maybe?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 22/Apr/2021 08:23:30

    I see the 1876 town hall.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 22/Apr/2021 08:26:25

    Also this building from 1900.

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    Olly Griffin

    • 22/Apr/2021 08:26:32

    brilliant, love this. I know exactly where it was taken from. Today I will redo it from the same spot for the 2021 view.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 22/Apr/2021 08:30:58

    Looks like it was taken from here on the 25" OSI.

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    Olly Griffin

    • 22/Apr/2021 08:46:59

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] correct George

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 22/Apr/2021 09:07:12

    [Aside] This might be the wrong way to tickle Morning Mary - interesting story to the 1912 song - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_a_Long_Way_to_Tipperary

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    Niall McAuley

    • 22/Apr/2021 10:07:15

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Yes, that was where I was thinking, looking into town along the Clonmel Road.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 22/Apr/2021 10:15:57

    NIAH might be a bit late on that 1900 date, the DIA dates the plans as 1892-93.

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    cargeofg

    • 22/Apr/2021 10:28:59

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley https://www.flickr.com/photos/ollygriffin Yes. I just worked back from gasworks line of sight on the OSI 25".

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    Niall McAuley

    • 22/Apr/2021 11:29:31

    Just behind the gasworks in megazoom, I see the name ENGLISH. Someone on Main Street with a business having a yard out the back?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 22/Apr/2021 11:35:42

    In L_ROY_02583 nearby in the catalogue, I see Timothy English and G.W. English on that stretch of Main Street. Timothy English is a Corn Merchant in the 1911 census, even though in the linked picture he is clearly a butcher with a cocoa salon. In 1901, he was up the road in William O'Brien street, so at least 02583 is after 1901 unless he moved away and back. A find: here is the 1889 Bassets directory. #44 E O King, Stationers #45 T&J English, Victuallers #46 Timothy English, Grocers #47 William Hilliard, Watchmaker #48 John Godfrey, Grocers #49 Mrs E English, Hardware and Timber #50 Wm Coman, Grocers #51 David Heelan, Drapers #52, 53 Haslam, Drapers #1 Mrs J Fitzgerald, Grocers Looks like a good match for L_ROY_02583. 49 is GW English, but Elizabeth English is GWs widow (and also mother, if we want to go way later). Darcy's Medical Hall is not at 52,53 in 1889. Now 1901: Carew, Joseph English, James English, Charles Penie (actually Seale, a watchmaker), Hanora Godfrey, Elizabeth English, William Coman, Richard O'Brien, Morgan Darcy (medical Hall). So L_ROY_02583 is between 1889 and 1901.

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    John Spooner

    • 22/Apr/2021 14:08:06

    Just to complicate matters, in the Clonmel Chronicle on Saturday 4 November 1893, in the account of licensing hearings at the Tipperary Quarter Sessions, in the section entitled 'Confirmation of Transfers', there's an entry: "James English, Main-street, Tipperary, from Timothy English, deceased

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    John Spooner

    • 22/Apr/2021 14:31:01

    Presumably it was a different, non-deceased Timothy English who was present at a ball in the Town Hall, Tipperary not long after (Clonmel Chronicle - Wednesday 24 January 1894)

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    Niall McAuley

    • 22/Apr/2021 15:27:52

    These L_ROYs are not all the same visit. L_ROY_02576 shows the Maid of Erin in the road, so 1907 on and the 1905 pillar box, while 02584 does not. I thin the two visits are a sunny fair day 1908-14, and a duller day in the 1890s.

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    suckindeesel

    • 22/Apr/2021 17:17:07

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/51131911038/in/dateposted/ What are they carrying?

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    silverio10

    • 22/Apr/2021 19:16:37

    Buena serie de fotos antiguas .

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    suckindeesel

    • 22/Apr/2021 23:22:14

    It must be a long way from Moscow to Tipperary, but a "Soviet" was set up in 1922 "During the industrial unrest that was such a feature of life in Tipperary at the beginning of the 1920s, this gas works was taken over by its workers in March 1922 and a Soviet proclaimed. As the company was owned by a British concern, this flying of the red flag in Tipperary seemed further proof that Ireland was unfit for self-government." www.tipperarycoco.ie/sites/default/files/N24-N74%20CHIA%2... This doc also gives 1900 for the post office, but appears to be a copy/paste of the NIAH entry.

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    cargeofg

    • 23/Apr/2021 09:34:30

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Re Bags. It is summer time trees are in leaf. Could it be turf ? But this maybe more plausible could they be doing laundry for the barracks at Collageland. Bags of bed sheets?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 23/Apr/2021 11:01:35

    Several of the Lawrence Tipperary photos were taken on a market day, like L_ROY_02577 . These women may be bringing stuff to market.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 23/Apr/2021 11:12:29

    L_CAB_05162 is a good contrast to L_ROY_02583 above: Carey has replaced King, James English has replaced Timothy, O'Brien has replaced Heelan, and we see the Kickham statue of 1895.

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    suckindeesel

    • 23/Apr/2021 12:33:13

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Very ingenious explanation re the laundry, and quite plausible.