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Where: Leinster, County Offaly, Ireland

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When: 01 January 1913

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William Street, Tullamore, Co. Offaly (formerly King’s County) on a quiet day. No traffic, no peelers, and lots of gawkers. Clearly the sight of the photographer is a novelty, and apart from the other onlookers, the young lad in bare feet selling the newspapers is really cute!

Photographer: Robert French

Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection

Date: Circa 1865-1914 Around 1914

NLI Ref: L_ROY_11394

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    Rory_Sherlock

    • 15/Apr/2021 07:37:08

    Streetview from 2018: www.google.ie/maps/@53.2752261,-7.4924908,3a,75y,26.84h,9...

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    Rory_Sherlock

    • 15/Apr/2021 07:44:31

    The large building with the balustraded parapet on the right was built 1911-1914 according to the NIAH: www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/14807...

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    CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY

    • 15/Apr/2021 07:49:32

    Of course, the dog was shy and hid its head. When I take photos of my black Labrador, he becomes a diva or a fussy Model. Considering the photographic technology and lens technology was not as sophisticated as it is today, this is an excellent capture of a moment in time. I wonder what the Irish boots looked like. In Australia R.M. Williams is the most famous brand and I have had a pair since 2001 and liked them so much bought a second pair.

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    allhails

    • 15/Apr/2021 07:51:26

    Here is another urchin selling newspapers. I took this in Dublin in 1959: https://www.flickr.com/photos/allhails/2988557687

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    Foxglove

    • 15/Apr/2021 08:36:50

    barefoot child and a dog (headless) in the same photo ! we obviously have been very well behaved this week and are getting treats, and it's only Thursday - it's only in times past or pandemic lockdowns that one can stand safely in the middle of the road

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 15/Apr/2021 09:04:40

    Mr French was really interested in that new store with the remarkable enormous plate glass windows, Malachy Scally's. From the left - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000316691 Full frontal (!) - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000316692

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 15/Apr/2021 09:09:23

    Mr Valentine was there in the late 1950s(?) - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000167604/Home

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    suckindeesel

    • 15/Apr/2021 09:55:32

    Marsh & Co biscuits Belfast, crate on corner. Closed c.1928 www.irishtimes.com/opinion/february-29th-1928-1.472480 due to partition with loss of 300 jobs. [https://www.flickr.com/photos/michaklass/42924486644/in/photolist-28p6dpW-2grw8df-2grw8xZ-2imJpMh-21HMzqb-MCgU3t-RxzocA-asfNfd-9eEFme-aHHWL2-U5uEgP-a2RLgA-U25bjJ-a2NUtP-a2NUB8-a2NUFB-9yfajo-pCbhUU-U1TXSD-SKWJ6a-SLH492-U2hyDZ-SJX7jL-TtbbAj-xgCRcQ-oeKuWB-6kRNai-sr3MZi-dxxAwo-FHA3gw-PHFtHT-od8PEz-FHU9pB-Gxkc1p-GdYeFy-Ghedeh-9529Hp-frUPzd-GoTEgK-7BBUur-TPaWkC-FLKY8d-owdXwr-id1VbK-oweuPH-oy5CL2-ovWMT6-6kVVZC-otGfAu-zqZuNK] via SunRayDancingBear

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    cargeofg

    • 15/Apr/2021 10:06:48

    If NIAH are dating Scally's to 1911-14 it is strange we see no cars about or in catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000331855 as Goodbody's had a number of cars registered to them both private and also for their business.

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    suckindeesel

    • 15/Apr/2021 11:59:40

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/cassidyphotography I remember the Winstanley work boots, a staple of semi-state companies who supplied them to their employees. This was an era when boots had to "worn in" and would cut your heel off when new. My practice was to beat the heel of the boot with a hammer to soften the leather. There were very many local shoe makers and shoe factories at that time. However, the 'K' shoes advertised came from Kendal in England.

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    suckindeesel

    • 15/Apr/2021 12:02:42

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Yes, it does look pre- cars, looks earlier than 1914. I wonder if the building carries a date? Perhaps the census might date some of the shops.

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    cargeofg

    • 15/Apr/2021 12:29:44

    Yes https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I agree it looks more 1890/1900 to me not 1911/14. Had a look at some other photos and could not see even a motor cycle or a Pratt's sign anywhere.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 15/Apr/2021 13:25:38

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia In the Valentine pic, you can see the current Bank which replaced Scally's original shop, to the left of the new one, in 1949

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    Niall McAuley

    • 15/Apr/2021 14:57:11

    The DIA does not know about the building, apparently, although architect TF McNamara was busy in Tullamore at the time.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 15/Apr/2021 15:21:29

    EAS_3350 is interesting, a reverse view. It includes a forage cap wearing RIC man, hence >1900, and the massive Bridge House facade from 1910, but not this building. Hence I am inclined to believe the 1911-14 date for this one.

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    John Spooner

    • 15/Apr/2021 16:18:18

    An advert for McMahon's Victualling Establishment in the Midland Counties Advertiser on Thursday 07 May 1801 gives very precise directions to the shop:

    Opposite Mrs E. Clear's Boot and Shoe Warehouse and Scally's Drapery premises; and between L. Doyle's Boot and Shoe Warehouse and the Northampton Boot and Shoe Warehouse.

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    John Spooner

    • 15/Apr/2021 16:32:35

    Advert for the Tullamore Drapery Co in the Midland Tribune and King's County Vindicator on Saturday 05 September 1908Midland Tribune - Saturday 05 September 1908

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    Bernard Healy

    • 15/Apr/2021 17:08:49

    Re: Tullamore Drapery Company, a friend of mine from that part of the world tells me that a relation of his worked there as a young woman in the 1970s. The owner was a Protestant lady called Mrs Champ. This Canadian obituary of a member of the Champ family confirms this: www.kindersleyfuneralhome.com/obituary/Eric-Champ According to page 14 of this document the Tullamore Drapery Company premises used to be owned by the Serviss family, who sold it to the Champs about 1900. The Champs established the Tullamore Drapery Company: ethostp.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/brief_lives.pdf Alternatively, page 13 of this thesis suggests that the foundation of the Tullamore Drapery Company happened c.1904 by Robert Habron Duggan of Mountmellick (born 1886): 1library.net/document/eqom57kz-critical-biography-maurice...

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    suckindeesel

    • 15/Apr/2021 17:10:51

    The 25" survey of 1910 doesn't show Scally's building footprint, so am inclined to believe the NIAH date of post 1914, despite the lack of motors.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 15/Apr/2021 18:01:10

    Having had a look at the 1901 & 1911 Censuses we see Robert H Duggan in Tullamore as a draper in 1911 and the Serviss family gone. No sign of the Champs. That makes the establishment of the Tullamore Drapery Company c.1904 or thereabouts by the relatively young Robert H Duggan more plausible. The 1908 advert makes the Tullamore Drapery Company sound like a relatively new firm. Conclusion - we are almost certainly post-1901, and the 1911/14 date looks very plausible, absence of motor vehicles notwithstanding.

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    John Spooner

    • 15/Apr/2021 19:15:00

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy The Tullamore Drapery Co used to advertise for staff in the situations vacant column of the Belfast News-letter. From 1908 to 1913 there was no religious requirement stated, but from 1914 onward they either state explicitly that applicants must be Protestant, or that applicants should state their religion along with experience, references etc.

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    silverio10

    • 15/Apr/2021 19:15:46

    Buenas fotos antiguas

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    O Mac

    • 15/Apr/2021 20:03:53

    That's a fine finial atop that pole.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 15/Apr/2021 21:21:57

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Buenas finials antiguas

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 15/Apr/2021 21:46:44

    "about 1914" according to - offalyhistoryblog.wordpress.com/2020/03/29/is-dolans-of-t... Sometimes ebay is amazing! In Adelaide, South Australia - www.ebay.ie/itm/Scallys-Shop-Tullamore-Co-Offaly-Ireland-...

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    KenjiB_48

    • 16/Apr/2021 01:21:17

    I'm curious about the lass with her arms akimbo, who seems to be giving the chap next to her what-for.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 16/Apr/2021 09:12:14

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner That's interesting. I wonder if that's as a result of heightening tensions around Home Rule, etc... I'm of a generation where the idea of hiring by religion wasn't an issue, but back when I had an office job in Dublin about 20 years ago, some of the senior members of staff (born in the mid-1950s) told me that when they hit the jobs market, there were still various professional firms in Dublin where it was expected that one would need to be Protestant to land a position. Interestingly it was a Church of Ireland colleague who filled me in on that part of history. I get the sense that the dynamics differed in different parts of the country as well - one needs a critical mass of working-class Protestants to maintain a religious bar in some industries. In some parts of Ireland that critical mass didn't exist.