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Where: Leinster, Ireland

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When: 01 December 1971

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Continuing our celebrations but down at ground level, we have a new treat for you today. Dublin Corporation Photographic Collection may not show as much as Monkey Morgan's collection, but it gives a more intimate view of things. The Savoy Cinema and restaurants on O'Connell Street with their display boards and two minis passing by, is the main subject of this photograph – our first from the collection.

+++ UPDATE +++
Newspapers were our friends for dating this photograph, as the fillums in Savoy 1 and 2 (aka the Savoy Twins) ran between 19 November and 23 December 1971. And from rummaging in other photos in this newly unleashed collection, Sharon Corbet soundly suggested the week of 3-10 December as being most likely. Evening Mary is happy to go along with that. Newspapers also gave us the name of the architects behind the Savoy Twins and other Dublin cinemas – Messrs. Henry J. Lyons of Dublin (thanks John Spooner!). Suck Diesel reminisced about the number of cinemas in the centre of Dublin in the 1970s, and just how long you had to wait for first-run fillums to reach suburban cinemas. And our Canadian Correspondent, oaktree_brian_1976, pointed out that while The Last Valley might have been popular in Dublin and elsewhere, overall it lost over $7,185,000.

Photographers: Unknown

Original Researcher: Valerie Houlden

Collection: Dublin Corporation Photographic Collection

Date: ca. 1960-1980 Between 19 November-23 December 1971, but 3-10 December is most likely

NLI Ref: NPA DCC 136

You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 26/Jan/2021 08:56:34

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia May the Australian flag always fly high! Happy Australia Day to you and to all our Australian friends. Mary, Mary and Carol.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 26/Jan/2021 09:04:13

    According to IMDb both films were released in November 1971 in Ireland - The Last Valley on the 19th. So I presume we are sometime fairly soon around that date.

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    Swordscookie

    • 26/Jan/2021 09:51:53

    My first thought when I saw this image was another movie - The Italian Job! The minis in line together speeding through Rome! A lovely shot of Dublin in the 70's. I love the lady and the girl at the bus stop with the bags of shopping waiting to take them home on the bus!

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    Peter Denton

    • 26/Jan/2021 10:08:07

    And that's presumably the (now extended) Gresham Hotel to the left? I stayed there many times in the 1970s,

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/Jan/2021 10:08:10

    1-9999 ZC Oct 71 to Mar 72, that Mk3 Cortina is brand new

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    sharon.corbet

    • 26/Jan/2021 10:11:46

    Streetview (from 2017, the more recent ones were plagued with buses)

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/Jan/2021 10:38:53

    I thought the clearest Mini was missing a letter, but no, 1-9999 Z was Feb-Jun 1971. Also quite new.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/Jan/2021 10:45:36

    The #14 bus went past our house, but I don't remember it crossing the Liffey, it used to stop at Fleet Street I think. A few years after this shot.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 26/Jan/2021 10:53:22

    There's a 3rd film listed as well - Beyond the Law with Lee Van Cleef. A 1968 Italian film, but the various international release dates span several years. (I haven't found one for Ireland.) Nov 1971 puts us - per Wikipedia in that period of time after the Savoy became a twin (2 screen) cinema in 1969, and the conversion of the Savoy's restaurant into a third screen in 1975. This pic is from the mid-1960s: stillslibrary.rte.ie/indexplus/image/2312/075.html

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    cargeofg

    • 26/Jan/2021 10:59:14

    Two Minis a Ford Cortina Mk3 and in the parking space what looks like an Opel Rekord. My first car a Vauxhall Viva in 77/78 was 4797 Z. So only 708 vehicles before the Mini in the picture.

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    Wendy:

    • 26/Jan/2021 11:01:56

    great memory jolt!

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    cargeofg

    • 26/Jan/2021 11:05:26

    catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000747872/HierarchyTree Reverse view with Austin A60 in the taxi rank. Austin Cambridge badges seem to be missing above chrome bar on boot?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 26/Jan/2021 11:12:00

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet Checked a load of cinema listings in the Evening Herald. Carry On and Beyond the Law started in Savoy 1 on Friday, 19 November 1971, so that is indeed the earliest date. The latest possible date is Thursday, 23 December 1971. Carry On and Beyond the Law were then replaced by Richard Burton in Raid on Rommel and George Peppard in One More Train to Rob. And the Last Valley was replaced on Stephenseses Day (26 December) by Fiddler on the Roof! One lovely detail, Savoy 1 & 2 were officially listed as Savoy Twins...

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    sharon.corbet

    • 26/Jan/2021 11:18:58

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Just thought of looking up the Irish Times listings myself. They have Savoy One and Savoy Two listed separately.

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    cargeofg

    • 26/Jan/2021 11:20:32

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Would the Adelphi in Middle Abbey St.have had the same or an overlap of these films on at the same time

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    sharon.corbet

    • 26/Jan/2021 11:23:33

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] No, taking the 19th November as an example, the Adelphi was showing Ryan's Daughter, Puppet on a Chain and S.W.A.L.K in its three screens.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 26/Jan/2021 11:26:23

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] In fact, looking at the listings, I see little or no overlap between any of the Dublin cinemas.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 26/Jan/2021 11:26:31

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland It's interesting that the Savoy had the same programme for over a month! I know that folk didn't go as crazy about Christmas shopping back in the 1970s, but I'd argue that the absence of any Christmas decorations or signage, etc, etc... is a point in favour of this being a November or early December photo rather than one taken during Christmas shopping season.

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    cargeofg

    • 26/Jan/2021 11:32:08

    I don't know if Ren-Tel was just Dublin only but down the country we had RTV as the telly rental company in Mullingar. catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000747871/HierarchyTree Opel Record 717 ZC.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 26/Jan/2021 11:38:23

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] If we were to assume that this collection of photos was taken at a similar time, then this Carlton photo would indicate that it's the week of 3rd to 10th December.

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    cargeofg

    • 26/Jan/2021 11:42:46

    On Megazoom in Prescotts upper window between the signs are there a pair of decorated Christmas trees?

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    Bernard Healy

    • 26/Jan/2021 11:53:14

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Well spotted! There seems to be.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 26/Jan/2021 11:59:19

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Thank you for your Australia Day good wishes. We have been celebrating! Flickr is sometimes amazing! In 2013 via https://www.flickr.com/photos/cityswift/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/cityswift/8398546509/ And in 1989 via https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/49317434983/

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    John Spooner

    • 26/Jan/2021 11:59:21

    On Friday 30 July 1971 the Sligo Champion had a big article announcing the new luxury cinema in the town, the Gaiety, in Wine Street. In the second column of the article:

    Anyone who has visited the Savoy or Curzon Cinemas in Dublin may feel there is something vaguely familiar about the interior of the Gaiety. This is because the Architects behind the renovation are Messrs. Henry J. Lyons and Son, Dublin, who designed the Savoy twins, and the Curzon. They are also involved in the new Odeon Cinema and designed 19 O'Connell St., Dublin, "the only put in O'Connell Street".
    I assume 'put' is a misprint of 'pub' (now Madigans) Edit: 1971 was the refurbishment of the 1936 cinema

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 26/Jan/2021 12:08:02

    'Carry On Up The Jungle' trailer - youtu.be/focYRKPQQMQ

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    Carol Maddock

    • 26/Jan/2021 12:15:01

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Hmmm, described in the paper as “side-splitting”...

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 26/Jan/2021 12:21:02

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] The snake scene!! - youtu.be/ZCZMEt0qxGA

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    cargeofg

    • 26/Jan/2021 12:32:10

    Companion Photo DCC131 ? There are three trees up there sir! catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000747852/HierarchyTree

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    sharon.corbet

    • 26/Jan/2021 13:10:26

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] There are also Christmas lights up in Henry St, again if we were to assume that the photos were taken in and around the same day.

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    Carol Maddock

    • 26/Jan/2021 13:26:34

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Oooh-er, Matron!

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    suckindeesel

    • 26/Jan/2021 13:38:06

    Surprisingly quite for O'Connell St. The first mini is an older model, pre '68, judging by the exposed door hinges, sliding driver's window and pivoting back window. This was an era when the cinemas were loosing ground, the larger ones like the Savoy being split into multiple screens, the first of the multiplexes. They still usually showed a "double bill", unlike today. There were at least four other cinemas within 5-minutes walking distance at this time. Those of us in the suburbs would have to wait months for those first run movies to be shown locally. I see a "Gay Child" children's clothes shop and a Ranks RenTel TV rental shop, same people who operated the cinema. Looks like they had an eye for the future there. "No. 19" further along was the first and only bar in the street, I wonder if it's still there? I seem to remember that it generated a lot of negative comment when it opened.

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    cargeofg

    • 26/Jan/2021 13:46:04

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet I did not go trawling further that O'Connell St itself and just a few numbers either side of DCC136. But you did a bit more diligent searching that me.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 26/Jan/2021 14:16:27

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I was more having a look at early 70s Dublin, and trying to see how much it matched my memories of 80s Dublin.

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    cargeofg

    • 26/Jan/2021 16:13:01

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet I was in Dublin 1971 to 77. All looks so familiar. Can't remember going to Savoy but went to Carlton and Adelphi. Gone across the water early 80s.

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    oaktree_brian_1976

    • 26/Jan/2021 17:51:22

    "The Last Valley" was a flop, it lost over 7 million at the box office. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Valley_(film)

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    oaktree_brian_1976

    • 26/Jan/2021 17:54:04

    Are those Minis, the car to the right and middle of the street? Shades of the Italian Job with Michael Caine in the theatre...

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    O Mac

    • 26/Jan/2021 21:20:30

    There is still one of those lovely 1938 concrete lamp posts standing on College Street. I think its the only one left. www.google.com/maps/@53.34571,-6.2573768,3a,75y,283.99h,1... The concrete columns were made in France by Sofrapel and the lamp fitting made of copper by Holophane in UK. They were all replaced in 1973 so only two years to go above.

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    nlpnt

    • 29/Jan/2021 05:04:19

    Is that a Rekord or a 6-cylinder Commodore? In the linked picture it looks to have the latter's vertical-bar grille.

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    wahaj10

    • 02/Feb/2021 03:49:46

    The Savoy Cinema's first showing was in 1929 with the American talkie "On With The Show." In 1954, it aired Ireland's first widescreen film, titled "The Robe." The auditorium originally seated 2,789 people, but has since undergone numerous alterations, including a transformation into a twin cinema in the year 1969.