Fox Hall – a grand name for a lair?

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In Morning Mary's experience the Fox, or more often the Vixen, is careful about where they choose to lay their heads, and that of their brood. This “Fox” has chosen well with a fine house, nestled in rolling countryside in beautiful Donegal! Who was Brer Fox, and what can we find out about Fox Hall?

Photographer: Robert French

Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection

Date: Circa 1865-1914

NLI Ref: L_ROY_05776

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 20/Jan/2021 09:35:21

    Ooo! Another monkey puzzle tree.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 20/Jan/2021 09:40:32

    There is a Foxy Lady (or a maid) in this one - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000332865

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    sharon.corbet

    • 20/Jan/2021 09:48:06

    Geohive is still acting up, so I can't link to it, but I think that this may be one for the no longer standing album. It may also be this house built in 1906 and 'modelled and finished after an American design' for J.S. Walford.

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    suckindeesel

    • 20/Jan/2021 09:51:55

    geohive.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=9... No longer standing

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 20/Jan/2021 10:13:05

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet] This looks like an earlier than 1906 building, in a slightly run-down condition. 19th Century Fox Hall, not 20th Century Fox Hall ! Via Trove, IRA headquarters in April 1922 - trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/195585001?searchTerm=%... "Curious Story Of An Aberdeen Heiress" (1903) - trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/128458659?searchTerm=%...

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    sharon.corbet

    • 20/Jan/2021 11:04:42

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia I'm not sure, to be honest. On the one hand, it seems to match the footprint on the OS map, and there is nothing on the site on the 6" map, but on the other hand it does look older, and I'm not sure what "American design" means.

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    DannyM8

    • 20/Jan/2021 12:29:59

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ There were a lot of Monkey puzzle trees way back!!

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 20/Jan/2021 12:46:38

    Nearby in the catalogue, L_ROY_05773 is Main Street, Letterkenny, with a convenient 'Irish Daily Telegraph' poster. Someone might be able to enhance it and provide a date hint - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000040514

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 20/Jan/2021 12:55:22

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] The monkey puzzle tree is probably still there, somewhere in that forest. They live for 1,000 years. I could not spot it via the Google satellite - www.google.com/maps/place/Foxhall,+Co.+Donegal,+Ireland/@...

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 20/Jan/2021 13:12:28

    Flickr is sometimes amazing! 1907 map showing the railway via [https://www.flickr.com/photos/internetarchivebookimages/] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/internetarchivebookimages/14757377306/] Edit - online book with context (fishing in the river Swilly) - archive.org/stream/picturesquedoneg00shru/picturesquedone...

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    Bernard Healy

    • 20/Jan/2021 15:22:24

    Have a look at the building returns from the Census. in 1901 there was a reasonably big house in the townland of Foxhall - 18 rooms, 26 windows in front, 27 outbuildings. Occupied by James Butler www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000676028/ There are 5 other smaller houses in the townland. What do we have in 1911? Because the 'big' house is unoccupied we have less information, but we still seem to have that one big house with lots of outbuildings, and 5 other smaller houses, but mostly unoccupied. www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002100181/ I'm not sure what that tells us - especially since I can't seem to square the picture of the house with 26 windows in front, but the map seems to suggest that the footprint of Fox Hall matches our picture.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 20/Jan/2021 15:32:21

    Note - 25" map was surveyed in 1904 & published 1905. Historic 6" map was surveyed in 1836 & doesn't include the pictured house. It seems to have an older Fox Hall somewhat to the East. The last edition 6" map was surveyed in 1835??? and published in 1906??? and includes our building from the picture.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 20/Jan/2021 16:03:50

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy I think the Last Edition 6" is the one that Geohive calls the Cassini and mentions the following "Map service generated from OSi Cassini 6inch raster mapping dated 1830s to 1930s. The last edition copperplate was created for Kerry in approximately 1845 for area 100-111." (Not that it really helps)

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    suckindeesel

    • 20/Jan/2021 17:08:59

    Yes, there were two "Fox Halls", the earlier one to the east as shown on the 6", and the later one which looks like ours on the 1904 25". How that ties in with the 1906 Architect mention is unclear. Does anybody think that the photo doesn't really match the plan on the later maps? The newspaper appears to be the "Daily Irish Telegraph", a title I can't find any mention of online. Certainly, the "Daily Telegraph" was, and still is a title.

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    suckindeesel

    • 20/Jan/2021 17:18:44

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50856901147/in/dateposted/ Best I can make out

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    Bernard Healy

    • 20/Jan/2021 19:32:35

    Irish Daily Telegraph - published 1904-1952

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    Bernard Healy

    • 20/Jan/2021 19:32:41

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] www.nli.ie/en/NewspapersDetails.aspx?IndexNo=766

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    suckindeesel

    • 20/Jan/2021 20:36:44

    Good find, under that title 1904 - 1918, then Daily Telegraph, reverts to original title much later. So gives date range if contemporary with that other shot of the main st

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 20/Jan/2021 21:56:26

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] I don't know how you do that un-bending of images; it is terrific. I know the newspaper connection is tenuous, but a new (1904+) paper would be likely to market itself with posters outside shops. Strikes me also that the railway from Letterkenny to Burtonport had only just happened (1903), letting Mr French / Lawrence, his trusty tripod and glass plates get there in relative comfort. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxhall_railway_station en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Londonderry_and_Lough_Swilly_Railway

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    suckindeesel

    • 20/Jan/2021 22:23:22

    Yes, station is only a short run in the dog cart. Image apps available for the tablet have limited functions, unlike those available for a laptop. I use Snapspeed, which of course is not a patch on Elements, PS or even PSP on the old laptop, now long retired.

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    suckindeesel

    • 20/Jan/2021 22:29:10

    The 1906 "New villa residence for J.S. Walford, Esq., Derry; 'modelled and finished after an American design' has me puzzled. I keep thinking that we're missing something re this house. J.S. Walford isn't the resident mentioned in the 1901 and house is vacant in the 1911? Station is only 30 mile from Derry by rail

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    silverio10

    • 20/Jan/2021 23:08:56

    Buenas fotos antiguas .

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    O Mac

    • 21/Jan/2021 02:26:02

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Also puzzling is that a John A Hanna is listed as head of household in the 1901 House and Building Return but there's no sign of him in the Household Return itself. www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000652910/ The Marquiss of Conyngham is listed as the land owner on the Building Return. The present Marquiss of Conyngham--- the 8th-- is the present Earl of MountCharles (Henry MountCharles} of Slane Castle. Fox Hill is in the District Electorial Division of MountCharles, Donegal. The thick plottens. This was quite a sizeable house in 1901 (21 rooms), before it was redesigned/rebuilt in 1906 . The above looks too shabby to have been taken anytime soon after 1906 if it is the rebuilt house. www.thepeerage.com/p7199.htm#i71990

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    Bernard Healy

    • 21/Jan/2021 08:30:56

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] I’m not sure what connection you’re making to our picture & the house at Hall Demesne. Anyway, I think this is the house in Hall Demesne: www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/40847...

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    • 21/Jan/2021 12:23:18

    beachcomber australia

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    • 22/Jan/2021 04:16:57

    Congrats on Explore! ⭐ January 21, 2021

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    • 22/Jan/2021 07:29:51

    Gutes Bild.

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    • 22/Jan/2021 08:52:27

    Excel.lent tret en B/N, felicitats.

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    • 22/Jan/2021 09:09:08

    ✨🌟★❤✯♥✨ Very beautiful ✨♥✯❤★🌟✨

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    • 22/Jan/2021 09:24:46

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    • 22/Jan/2021 11:16:33

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    maczeug2

    • 22/Jan/2021 12:54:10

     Very beautiful capture ;-)

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    Mr. Happy Face - Peace :)

    • 22/Jan/2021 14:01:07

    Beautiful Photography. Be Calm Kind & Safe

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    Thea Prum

    • 22/Jan/2021 16:26:42

    nice

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    Ian Robin Jackson

    • 22/Jan/2021 21:37:03

    Looks like the house from the old TV sitcom To the manor born

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    cargeofg

    • 27/Jan/2021 10:41:13

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] To the Manor Born was filmed at Cricket St Thomas Somerset England. Also used by Noel Edmonds and Mr Blobby as Crinkly Bottom.

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    wahaj10

    • 11/Feb/2021 13:18:07

    In many well-known African-American oral traditions from the Southern United States, Brer Fox is a character from the folktales by Joel Chandler Harris, a journalist and fiction writer from Georgia. There are also several Disney adaptations of Brer Fox (including in the Splash Mountain attraction at Disneyland, Tokyo Disneyland, and Magic Kingdom), where his portrayal is more humorous and cartoonish.