This is Mrs. Glenny, but who is Mrs. Bill?

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This lovely portrait of Mrs. Glenny of "Knockeaton" in Tramore is today's offering and was specially chosen to celebrate this day, 6th January, also known as Nollaig na mBan. (Women's Christmas) She has clearly prepared very carefully for the event with her permanent wave, her string of pearls, and carefully applied makeup. It appears that the image was not to someone's satisfaction, as there appears to have been some photoshopping done at the sides. Who was Mrs. Glenny? Can we find Knockeaton in Tramore, and who is the mysterious Mrs. Bill?

Photographer: A. H. Poole

Collection: Poole Photographic Collection, Waterford

Date: Between 1901-1954

NLI Ref: POOLEWP 3447

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    O Mac

    • 06/Jan/2021 09:12:41

    Knockeaton appears to be name of a house on Eaton Terrace, Tramore. maps.app.goo.gl/Sm9caDVDk4Es77T47 As advertised....with built in microwave. www.propertypartnerstramore.ie/residential/brochure/knock...

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    cargeofg

    • 06/Jan/2021 09:20:52

    Photoshopping at sides to remove back of chair? But also a little bit of erasing at neckline to her LH side

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    O Mac

    • 06/Jan/2021 09:30:12

    The only Mrs Glenny in Waterford in 1911 is a Martha Glenny wife to Isaac , a butler. living on Henry Street. Maybe "Mrs Bill" was lady of the Knockeaton house. www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Water...

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 06/Jan/2021 09:36:05

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Oooooh a built in microwave????

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    O Mac

    • 06/Jan/2021 09:41:08

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Lá dí Dá how-r-ye.???

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    Foxglove

    • 06/Jan/2021 09:42:20

    if you are of "faint disposition" search inbuilt microwave and don't follow the "string of pearls" tag with the photo ! oh la la (la la la)

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    O Mac

    • 06/Jan/2021 09:56:20

    Mrs Glenny's hairstyle could be considered a microwave

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    sharon.corbet

    • 06/Jan/2021 10:49:25

    From perusing various newspapers, I *think* Mrs. "Bill" is actually Mrs. Bell née Maud Glenny. However, I can only find circumstantial evidence at the moment.

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    John Spooner

    • 06/Jan/2021 10:51:13

    Knockeaten was put up at auction in 1929. The auctioneers notice says it is "at present occupied by Mrs. Frederick Bell" (Waterford Standard - Saturday 20 July 1929)

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    sharon.corbet

    • 06/Jan/2021 11:02:22

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner Yeah, that was what I was working off. He's actually Thomas Frederick Bell.

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    John Spooner

    • 06/Jan/2021 11:05:11

    Captain H M Erskine-Andrews of Knockeaton, Tramore , won the first army VC of WW2. "During the retreat from Dunkirk he climbed on to a roof and shot 17 Germans with a rifle and for more than ten hours his company held their position" (Blyth News - Monday 01 November 1943)

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    O Mac

    • 06/Jan/2021 11:28:14

    The Bells were chemists and had a shop on the Quay Waterford. Thomas Frederick should be eldest son in this group. Lad with beard? catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000590636/MooviewerImg?mobile... www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Water...

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    John Spooner

    • 06/Jan/2021 11:28:40

    Blimey. "climbed on to a roof and shot 17 Germans with a rifle" doesn't begin to tell the story of his actions. The roof was on a straw-roofed barn, and enemy mortar bombs and armour-piercing bullets were going through the roof. But that is only one part of the story. Click on the image below to read the full official announcement of his VC. (Western Daily Press - Wednesday 31 July 1940) Western Daily Press - Wednesday 31 July 1940

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    Niall McAuley

    • 06/Jan/2021 11:53:42

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] Albert Henry Bell married Mary Geraldine Glenny in 1908. Siblings? civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marri...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 06/Jan/2021 12:04:39

    Hmm, Mary G. is the only Glenny in Waterford in 1901, and is of an age to be Isaacs sister, Martha's sister in law.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 06/Jan/2021 12:10:30

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Not on the Glenny side. There's definite mention of Isaac Glenny being the FIL of T. Frederick Bell. But Albert seems to be T. Frederick's older brother according to the 1901 census.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 06/Jan/2021 12:13:01

    Here's T.F.'s death record with his wife mentioned as Maud E. I can't find a marriage record yet, though.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 06/Jan/2021 12:29:45

    I don't see any other Bell/Glenny weddings, or any Bell/Glenny children at all.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 06/Jan/2021 12:45:17

    I do see the death of Thomas Frederick, aged 69 in 1941, widow Maud present, in Tramore.

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    derangedlemur

    • 06/Jan/2021 13:21:40

    There's an Ellen Bill and Mary Glenny, both nurses on the Falls Road in 1911. Maybe Ellen moved to Tramore and Mary went to visit? Edit: Well behind the times, as usual, I see.

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    Carol Maddock

    • 06/Jan/2021 15:37:00

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Standing ovation for the microwave hairstyle joke! Best of the year so far... :)

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    O Mac

    • 06/Jan/2021 15:56:00

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Hair has to do what a hairdos.

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    Carol Maddock

    • 06/Jan/2021 15:59:19

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Hairdos. Fair dos.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 06/Jan/2021 21:27:45

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley From what I could tell, Mary Geraldine and Isaac Glenny are not siblings (different fathers on the marriage records. I’m also fairly sure they’re not first cousins. On the other hand, it’s a bit odd if the Bell brothers married two unrelated Glenny’s - it’s not *that* common a name.

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    silverio10

    • 06/Jan/2021 23:01:59

    Buenas fotos antiguas .

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    CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY

    • 07/Jan/2021 02:33:47

    "Mr. Bill"- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Bill

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    sharon.corbet

    • 07/Jan/2021 10:37:58

    I think I've figured out why we can't find the marriage cert. According to one of the obits for Isaac Glenny, he worked for Dr. O'Hara, the Bishop, and moved with him to Coleraine when the bishop retired. So the wedding is most likely in the Northern Irish records, given that was where the bride was living at the time.

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    Josef...

    • 12/Jan/2021 03:34:00

    - From Art and Photography group: ...e x q u i s i t e a c h i e v e m e n t ! THANK YOU FOR POSTING IT.