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St. James’ Villa, Malahide in North County Dublin appears to be all alone in the field, but that will have changed dramatically in the intervening years! A gentleman with two young ladies, and what appears to be an older lady, pose for this Eason image. Given that the Eason Collection photographs were generally intended for use as postcards, one wonders what was the significance of this house and/or the family?

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Some beautiful Malahide family reconstructions in evidence here. Everyone seemed to enjoy this one, and a special thank you, An Poc Ar Buile, for your deep dive into newspapers, allowing you to show changes of ownership for this lovely house, St James' Villa, in 1902, 1905, and 1910 (when it was sold as part of the estate of William Parkinson). Bernard Healy then leapt into the fray with evidence about the Parkinson family (not all happy) from family history records.

Photographer: Unknown

Collection: Eason Photographic Collection

Date: between 1900-around 1914

NLI Ref: EAS_1864

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    Bernard Healy

    • 02/Dec/2020 08:57:23

    Okay - this is a shot in the dark & probably wrong, but this house at the end of James' Terrace looks somewhat similar. goo.gl/maps/LqbuHh3EFoQVfvZ56

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    derangedlemur

    • 02/Dec/2020 08:57:36

    I was just thinking, I know that house, it's in Malahide, and then I read the caption. Here's streetview: goo.gl/maps/sf9ihnsnXhqDWBoS7

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    derangedlemur

    • 02/Dec/2020 08:58:46

    And some OSI, why not? bit.ly/3qjeD2P

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    Bernard Healy

    • 02/Dec/2020 09:05:23

    Just to confirm - 1912 Thoms directory places St James Villa at the end of St James Terrace, and names the resident as J O'Connor.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 02/Dec/2020 09:18:47

    Okay - if someone has access to a set of Thoms directories, it might be useful to browse them. The 1892 directory is online & it looks as though James Terrace runs to 12 houses, with the Villa not being mentioned. The next directory I've found online is that of 1912 - and it has J O'Connor resident in it. I think the 1911 Census shows the Villa as empty - it mentions a house with 9 windows as part of James Terrace - that seems to be the villa - and it's listed as empty. That same house (9 windows) in the 1901 census contains the family of one William Bannister, a builder: www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Malahide...

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    Bernard Healy

    • 02/Dec/2020 09:43:27

    Okay - I've been doing a bit more digging into the Bannisters. If they had two daughters, I'd be suggesting them as likely candidates for this picture. However, they only had one daughter in 1901, so far as the census tells us. In 1895, Mrs Bannister gave birth to a son and at that time they were living somewhere called Pinogue Hill civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth... The poor child died a few weeks later. In 1898 they were in St James Villa, and Mrs Bannister lost a son shortly after a premature birth: civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/death... In 1906 they were in Glasnevin when their son Charles was born: civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth... NOW, the 1911 Census does show another daughter Catherine Eileen born c.1902 www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000034471/ I can't find a cert for her, but the family were gone from Malahide when she was about 4 years old, so she can't be either of the girls in the picture.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 02/Dec/2020 09:49:36

    OKAY - summarising: 1. Villa seemingly not extant in 1892 2. Bannister Family resident in Villa - definitely in 1898, maybe a few years previously, but not before 1895. Bannister family have left Villa by 1906, 3. Makeup of Bannister family suggests that the people in the photo might not be them - not enough daughters. 4. Villa seemingly empty in 1911 per Census 5. Villa seemingly occupied by a J O'Connor in 1912 per Thoms Directory. 6. Condition of Villa in photo - good, but not brand-new; not vegetation in garden & possible wear & tear on brickwork & ceiling. House is seemingly occupied - curtains, etc...

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 02/Dec/2020 11:01:08

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy Nice work, Thank you.

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    suckindeesel

    • 02/Dec/2020 12:57:41

    Odd subject for a postcard

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    Bernard Healy

    • 02/Dec/2020 13:12:59

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] BTW, this pic from the Eason Collection catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000557655 may be from the same visit to Malahide. It's James' Terrace & St James' Villa is visible at the end. I wonder if the lamp posts or other details might help in fixing a date.

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    derangedlemur

    • 02/Dec/2020 13:57:12

    I'd guess Pinogue Hill is Pinnock Hill just south of Swords.

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    derangedlemur

    • 02/Dec/2020 14:06:04

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy It appears to be before the technology of shoes had spread much into north Dublin. There's one lad in clown shoes and one lad barefoot.

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    derangedlemur

    • 02/Dec/2020 14:08:58

    The plus-fours and Norfolk on the shod youth suggest early 20th century, but you never know how fashionable these country bumpkins were; It could be left over from a previous era, or be the '40s. James's Terrace never changed.

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    derangedlemur

    • 02/Dec/2020 14:23:45

    Possibly the wide open door on the leftmost house implies that this is already a Garda station, which would make it post-1927.

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    derangedlemur

    • 02/Dec/2020 14:29:17

    On the other hand, if it's the same vintage as other Eason shots of Malahide, it would seem to be pre-1914.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 02/Dec/2020 15:00:55

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I'm not sure I could say exactly why, but 1920s seems too late for these pictures. Do you think the streetlamp is gas or electric?

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    an poc

    • 02/Dec/2020 15:21:29

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Freeman's Journal, 26 Feb 1902, 8: "AUCTIONS / BATTERSBY & CO.'S SALES. / TO-MORROW (THURSDAY), / IN THE PROPERTY SALERROMS, / No. 39 WESTMORELAND STREET, / AT THE HOUR OF ONE O'CLOCK. ... LOT 4---ST. JAMES' VILLA, MALAHIDE. / A substantial Villa Residence, situate at St. James' terrace, containing three sittingrooms, four bedrooms, servants' room, bathroom, 2 kitchens, with close ranges, pantry, etc.; large garden; held for a term of 150 years from 1st November, 1895, at the yearly rent of £2" Irish Independent, 7 July 1905, 8: Battersby's auctioneers: "ST. JAMES' VILLA, MALAHIDE, overlooking the sea, and close to railway station and golf links. The House is substantially built, stands detached, and contains three sitting, 4 good bedrooms, servants' room, bathroom, two kitchens, with close ranges, pantry, etc.; large garden. The entire is in perfect order, including the sanitary arrangements. Good water supply. Held under lease from Lord Talbot de Malahide for 150 years from 1st July, 1895, at yearly rent of £2, payable half-yearly, 1st May and 1st November. / The Premises are Let under lease for a term of 5 years from 14th November, 1902, at the yearly rent of £50." Irish Independent, 3 March 1910, 8: "JOSEPH F. KEOGH'S AUCTIONS / ADMINISTRATOR'S SALE, Re WILLIAM PARKINSON, Deceased, of MALAHIDE, CO. DUBLIN, Of the VALUABLE 7-DAY LICENSED PREMISES, And OUT-OFFICES, with SMALL DWELLINGHOUSE ADJOINING; Also the DOUBLE-FRONTED DETACHED RESIDENCE, Known as ST. JAMES' VILLA, MALAHIDE. Further particulars from THOMAS EARLY, Solicitor, 15 Granby row (Rutland Square, W.), Dublin; or JOSEPH F. KEOGH, AUCTIONEER, 25 BACHELOR'S WALK, DUBLIN."

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    an poc

    • 02/Dec/2020 15:37:39

    I'd say it's pre-1914. The Eason shots look like they could all have been taken the same day. For more on St James' Terrace and its residents see Brian Inglis' memoirs West Briton and Downstart

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    Bernard Healy

    • 02/Dec/2020 16:26:49

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] The Parkinsons had a sad history - in the 1901 Census they had a daughter (Mary Angela) aged 2. I was wondering if another Parkinson girl was born, giving us possible candidates for our picture. I discovered that Mrs Parkinson died in 1907 (aged 29) and then Mr Parkinson died in 1910 (aged 43). As best as I can figure out, Mary Angela Parkison never had a sister & when the 1911 Census came around, she was living with relations in Tipperary.

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    suckindeesel

    • 02/Dec/2020 16:56:16

    Looks like a different house, called the "Boat House", on the 1906 6" survey. bit.ly/2L1mt0U

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    derangedlemur

    • 02/Dec/2020 17:10:01

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy Looks like gas to me.

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    an poc

    • 02/Dec/2020 17:50:47

    Thanks for that [https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy]. God love her. I wonder where on Main Street their shop was? The only grocer's I can find is Hogan's, seen here in this photo from the Eason collection: catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000047549. (Incidentally, my great-great-grandparents, George and Mary Taylor, had a butcher's shop on Main Street at that time and would have known the Parkinsons.) EDIT: It seems Hogans may have been successors to Parkinsons: www.malahideheritage.com/shops-page-1

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    an poc

    • 02/Dec/2020 18:25:41

    Drogheda Independent, 16 August 1902, 4: "There is at present on view in the windows of Messrs Hopkins, jewellers, Lower O'Connell street, an address and silver presentation for Mr and Mrs W Parkinson, Malahide, to be made on the occasion of the reopening of their business premises so disastrously destroyed by fire in May, 1901. The address is a beautiful work of art, magnificently illuminated by Miss Mary Fitzpatrick, 192 Clonliffe road. The border is of Celtic design, taken from the Book of Kells. On the top is a group of Mr and Mrs Parkinson and baby, and several views of interesting places in Malahide have been introduced, including the Catholic and Protestant Churches, Malahide Castle, and the house as it was before the burning. All is enclosed in a massive gilt frame." ibid., 18 October 1902, 7: "Mr and Mrs Parkinson, Malahide, were the recipients on Tuesday evening, 7th inst, of a beautiful illuminated address and silver presentation from a number of personal friends and well wishers. The occasion was the re-opening of their fine new business premises, which replace those so disastrously destroyed by fire in May, 1901. Very Rev D P Mulcahy, PP, presided, and there were also present--Rev J Jones, CC; Rev N Russell, CC; Rev A Ryan, CC; Mr P J Kiernan, Mr W H Hayes, solicitor, Mr H Milling, CE, Mr J Parkinson, Mr J Stack, Mr T Early, solicitor; Mr P Hogan, DC; Mr R G Taylor, Mr P Kettle, DC; Mr C McAllister, Sir G Griffin, Mr P Cullen, Mr T Connolly, Mr H Holton, Mr T Clery. Father Mulcahy, who made the presentation, referred to the great sympathy felt by all for Mr and Mrs Parkinson in the great calamity which befell them on the occasion of the fire and congratulated them on having again rebuilt their house on even a more substantial scale than it was originally. He also bore eloquent testimony to the great amount of good accomplished by Mr Parkinson since he took up his residence in the district, and referred to the efficient manner in which he has always discharged his duties as District Councillor for the past three years. Mr Parkinson replied in very feeling terms, and thanked the committee and all concerned in the address and presentation, saying that he would appreciate them all through life as mementoes sic of the kind sympathy shown towards Mrs Parkinson and him in their hour of trouble. The party was then most hospitably entertained by Mr and Mrs Parkinson. The toasts of "our Chairman" and "our host and hostess" were duly honoured; songs were kindly contributed during the evening by Father Ryan, Mr P Kettle, Mr R G Taylor, and Mr H Holton, and the company separated wishing Mr and Mrs Parkinson many years of health and happiness in their new home." Drogheda Independent, 17 August 1907, 5, contains a report of Mrs Parkinson's funeral.

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    derangedlemur

    • 02/Dec/2020 18:49:34

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] The house name is often to the right of the house in the 25", so I think Boat House (or possibly an actual boat house) is one of the ones on the Green.

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    suckindeesel

    • 02/Dec/2020 20:20:08

    Yes, that makes sense, given the auctioneer's adds. The Boat House was on the former site of the Coastguard Staion in the earlier 6"

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 02/Dec/2020 20:25:55

    The NLI is always amazing! Before the villa was built - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000325651 And a Valentine ❤ with later pointy porch - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000046138/Image?lookfor=http:... Edit - 1929?? - www.historiccoventry.co.uk/main/pc-dating.php?pc=208282

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    Bernard Healy

    • 02/Dec/2020 20:34:57

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Great find!

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    catb -

    • 02/Dec/2020 21:01:45

    . . . and the same house in June 2019! www.flickr.com/photos/catb/50673366812/in/dateposted/

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    cargeofg

    • 03/Dec/2020 10:50:43

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] On Super zoom the street lamp looks like it is gas. Thumb plate tap visible on pipe going up within the lamp.

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    rpgvlwqt88

    • 03/Dec/2020 16:08:10

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Further detail on the terrace more generally here. A rare example of regency architecture in Dublin www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/11344... ...also details of the boathouse which still stands out the back of number 12 www.malahideseascouts.ie/about/history/den-townyard-lane-... www.fingal.ie/sites/default/files/2019-04/Malahide%20Hist... goo.gl/maps/PSnQzXFavB84SjME6 - the boathouse in now a nail studio