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The Clonbrocks could travel and were off to Europe where they took some images that have provided us with great entertainment. This lovely image of a lake/river side scene with boats, hotel and hills on view was taken at "Stolzenfels". Is it correct? Is it still the same and what more can we find out about it>

Photographers: Dillon Family

Contributors: Luke Gerald Dillon, Augusta Caroline Dillon

Collection: Clonbrock photographic Collection

Date: 1901

NLI Ref: CLON645

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
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    derangedlemur

    • 07/Oct/2020 07:56:06

    I used to live there, but I can't remember now is that Koenigswinter and the Drachenfels, Bad Honnef or Linz am Rhein.

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    derangedlemur

    • 07/Oct/2020 07:58:05

    Might even be Koblenz, now I think of it. Or the Lorelei.

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    Rory_Sherlock

    • 07/Oct/2020 08:04:28

    That's Rhinefels Castle on the hill so I think the village is Sankt Goar, less than 2km from the Lorelei Rock but on the other side of the river Map: www.google.ie/maps/place/St.+Goar/@50.1511296,7.7154121,1... Nearest thing to Streetview: [Link won't work - but there is a panoramic view from the riverside available - visible as a blue dot on Google maps when you try to enter Streetview] Hotel website: hotelzumgoldenenloewen.com/

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    Foxglove

    • 07/Oct/2020 08:04:42

    the two seated characters at centre, are they backward seated into a bench on is one working on an artist's easel? pretty scene, the row boats have a distinctive raised prow

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    derangedlemur

    • 07/Oct/2020 08:05:59

    Mind you, see one German river and you've seen them all. It could as easily be Kufstein, where there is still a Hotel Goldener Loewe.

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    derangedlemur

    • 07/Oct/2020 08:26:11

    Looks like the same castle, alright: goo.gl/maps/ms833KNWbotctmYX8

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    derangedlemur

    • 07/Oct/2020 08:26:34

    So not Stolzenfels, which is up by Koblenz (actually downstream, but up the map).

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    Rory_Sherlock

    • 07/Oct/2020 08:26:41

    Flickr is sometimes amazing: Sankt Goar

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 07/Oct/2020 08:30:08

    Were they going up the Rhine? They were in Heidelberg on 24 July 1901, and in Switzerland on 27 July. So this is likely to be about 20 July 1901(?) Previously but afterwards - https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/49418454501/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/19109912355/

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    sharon.corbet

    • 07/Oct/2020 08:40:39

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia They went upstream on the Rhine, at the very least from Koblenz down to probably Mainz/Rüdesheim/Wiesbaden - https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] prepared a Bing Map of their journey which is in the comments of the Brunig photo. There are photos of Koblenz, and photos of Bad Schwalbach which is in the Taunus area north of Wiesbaden. It's also the Rhine Gorge area, and is still the most common bit for cruising down the Rhine.

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    derangedlemur

    • 07/Oct/2020 09:32:15

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove I think they're on chairs around a small table.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 07/Oct/2020 09:43:45

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Hmmm. According to the photos they were in Cologne on June 26th Koblenz on June 26th and Bad Schwalbach on June 27th. I would guess that they probably took the train from Cologne to Koblenz on the morning of the 26th, and then a cruise from there. Or the dates are messed up. (It's definitely Cologne on the 26th - the undated companion photo makes it clear that it is the Altmarkt. The "Schwalbath" photo has "Stahlbrunnen" written on it, and looks like old postcards of the Stahlbrunnen in Bad Schwalbach. The Coblenz photo has the Hotel Victoria on the left.)

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    sharon.corbet

    • 07/Oct/2020 10:19:29

    Here's a description of St. Goar from the 1900 Baedeker. It also gives travel times - 2-2 3/4 hrs on the train from Cologne to Coblenz, and 7 1/2 hours on the steamer from Coblenz to Mayence (Mainz). The 1911 Baedeker includes maps.

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    derangedlemur

    • 07/Oct/2020 10:23:06

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet You'd cycle it on that schedule either, but they don't seem the types.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 07/Oct/2020 10:40:00

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Have to admit, I'm not the type either :-)

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 07/Oct/2020 11:08:28

    Four more photos from the steamer(?) which should provide more clues - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000522188 (her hat!!) catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000522189 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000522191 (requires flipping) catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000522193

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    sharon.corbet

    • 07/Oct/2020 11:39:25

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Those are: Marksburg Pfalzgrafenstein Stolzenfels Boppard All of them are between Koblenz and Mainz (or possibly Bingen/Rüdesheim). Coming from Koblenz the order is Stolzenfels (labelled St. Gohr), Marksburg, Boppard, the photo of St. Goar above, Pfalzgrafenstein.

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    oaktree_brian_1976

    • 07/Oct/2020 11:57:16

    Hotel Golden Lion in German. A gazillion listings in Google for hotels with that name.

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    derangedlemur

    • 07/Oct/2020 12:27:38

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] It's the Pfaelzer crest. I think they might have one in Bayern as well.

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    suckindeesel

    • 07/Oct/2020 20:08:39

    So it's true that the Germans wouldn't allow the Google camera car access? There's not a street view in sight.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 07/Oct/2020 20:16:10

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet is always amazing!