When the horse was king of the road!

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From effin effigies to the busy main street in Bray, Co. Wicklow, all in the course of 24 hours? That is the joy and excitement of following the NLI on Flickr. This lovely street shot from the Fergus O’Connor Collection shows a world of life and movement, and all from 100 years ago. Sure where else would you get it?

Photographer: Fergus O’Connor

Collection: Fergus O’Connor Collection

Date: 1900-1920

NLI Ref: OCO 204

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
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    Foxglove

    • 26/Aug/2020 07:57:21

    yes, it is horses, I do not see a donkey and cart. oh I love this , there are at least two dogs ! I once holidayed here as a child, the near- by beach was wonderous. # added edits, there may be upto five dogs and I downgrade a geegee to donkee status Also classic "one man digs hole in the road while another admires the exercise"

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    DannyM8

    • 26/Aug/2020 07:59:23

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Two dogs!!! Flickr must be broken.

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    John Spooner

    • 26/Aug/2020 07:59:27

    The Daily Mirror had a large Income Tax cartoon on Saturday 6th Feb 1909, but probably on many other dates as well.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 26/Aug/2020 08:07:45

    Streetview

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 26/Aug/2020 08:10:20

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] It could be 5 dogs and 1 cat!

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    John Spooner

    • 26/Aug/2020 08:14:24

    Alex Findlater & Co of 17 Main Street, Bray, was a bottler. Pure French Burgundy in screw-top flagons. 2s. per flagon.

    What Dr Druitt says: In neglecting Burgundy Wine we ignore a most powerful agent in nerve troubles. For a large class of people who require support, Burgundy has in it materials which Bordeaux has not. What Bordeaux is to the blood, that is Burgundy to the nerves.
    (Findlater's advert in the Wicklow News-Letter and County Advertiser - Saturday 17 November 1906.) Blood or nerves? A tricky choice.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 26/Aug/2020 08:22:55

    The names of the shops on the right hand side seem to match the 1911 census better than the 1901 Census and both of them have a Jane Nolan with a confectionary shop at no. 99, so the numbering should be the same.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/Aug/2020 08:24:05

    The Sketch: Portrait of a...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/Aug/2020 08:24:53

    Daily Mail: New Serial Story Starts Today

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    John Spooner

    • 26/Aug/2020 08:27:02

    Looting on Main Street Belfast News-Letter - Thursday 26 March 1908 (Belfast News-Letter - Thursday 26 March 1908)

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/Aug/2020 08:30:05

    might be The xxxx Appeal in the IT. Poster out for the Weekly IT suggests a Saturday?

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    suckindeesel

    • 26/Aug/2020 08:35:00

    "You may telephone from here" sign on right

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 26/Aug/2020 08:48:30

    A donkey in Bray . . .

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    Foxglove

    • 26/Aug/2020 09:04:05

    hay! beachcomber, wonderful pun

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/Aug/2020 09:12:16

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Why not both?

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    Bernard Healy

    • 26/Aug/2020 09:45:17

    Looking at the newspaper posters - Daily Mirror was established 1903. However, we can do better - the Daily Sketch was established in 1909. So, 1909 or after.

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    cargeofg

    • 26/Aug/2020 09:54:11

    Cart load of seaweed on RHS of street. I would take the Alex Finlater and Co are a branch shop the same company in Dublin. I am sure Morning Mary will confirm they have a copy of the family history written by a later Alex Finlater. Finlaters-A story of a Dublin merchant family 1774-2001.

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    cargeofg

    • 26/Aug/2020 09:56:02

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner I wonder if the small bottles were Naggins?

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 26/Aug/2020 10:00:28

    There is a reverse(?) view with a motor car 'RI 1833' - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000299048

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/Aug/2020 10:19:37

    Wm. Stewart Ross, M.D., Clonsilla, Greystones owns that car in the 1914-15 directory. By then the RI regs are up to 3000

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    cargeofg

    • 26/Aug/2020 10:26:37

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia In OCO 205. Griffiths Ironmongers chandlers seed and general merchants Have early Pratts motor spirit sign (horseless carriage image) along with Suttons seeds and Gouldings (Fertilisers)

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    John Spooner

    • 26/Aug/2020 12:32:09

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy But the weekly "The Sketch" (as opposed to the Daily Sketch) was published from 1893 to 1958

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    John Spooner

    • 26/Aug/2020 12:50:33

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Four different sizes of bottles (and that's just whiskey), but no naggins unfortunately. But 2 pigs' faces, figs and soap. Wicklow News-Letter and County Advertiser - Saturday 28 March 1908

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    John Spooner

    • 26/Aug/2020 13:01:51

    Findlaters made use of the raid in their advertising - Discriminating burglars

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    suckindeesel

    • 26/Aug/2020 13:10:56

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Findlaters had many branches in Dublin at least, sort of posh grocers. I remember the one in Rathmines, Still somebody trading as Alex Findlater & Co. in Limerick. Gets two mentions in Ulysses

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    suckindeesel

    • 26/Aug/2020 13:19:57

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] We never covered the "nip", which I was recently reminded of by a fellow bar fly. Apparently 3 nips for an Irish measure and 2 for a British measure.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 26/Aug/2020 13:45:32

    The Findlaters were a long-established Dublin merchant family of Scottish descent. The Abbey Presbyterian church on Parnell Square is also known as Findlater’s church because its construction was funded by the Alexander Findlater of the firm’s name.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 26/Aug/2020 13:48:48

    I’m pretty sure that when I lived in Rathmines, the vaults under the former Harcourt Street Station were home to Findlater’s Wines. Here’s an obituary for the last of the dynasty: www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/alex-findlater-o...

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    nl042

    • 26/Aug/2020 13:53:03

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner 60 baby bottles of whiskey? That's some well sozzled babies!

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    Bernard Healy

    • 26/Aug/2020 14:16:19

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner If you zoom in on the poster, you can see Daily above the word Sketch.

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    cargeofg

    • 26/Aug/2020 15:04:38

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I remember them in Dublin but must ask my father if he did business with them. I know we used deal with Smyths of the Green. We as provincial grocers in Mullingar had to change and diversify and become also posh grocers when the larger chain store grocers moved in to town.

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    cargeofg

    • 26/Aug/2020 15:05:53

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner That would stock up the celler and pantry !!

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    suckindeesel

    • 26/Aug/2020 16:26:13

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy Could have been Gilbey's

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    suckindeesel

    • 26/Aug/2020 16:29:31

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Here's a pic of the former Findlaters in Foxrock, just to give you a taste of what they were like en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxrock#/media/File:Centre_of_Foxro...

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    suckindeesel

    • 26/Aug/2020 16:38:04

    "Shopping should always be done by the mistress herself. It is extremely unwise to send servants with money to buy what is required, as, however honest they may be, a temptation to pilfer is put in their way which a mistress has no right to subject them to. A good housekeeper will never run short of anything, and so will have no occasion to send off in a hurry at the last minute to try and obtain what should have been ready to hand. A strict account of all money spent each week should be kept by all housekeepers who wish to attain efficiency and economy, and those who have never done so will be surprised how many entries are made, and how the most trifling expenditures amount very quickly to large sums" Findlater’s Ladies’ Housekeeping Book for 1890

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    suckindeesel

    • 26/Aug/2020 16:43:02

    (U, 57) "Cute old codger". "Where do they get the money? Coming up red headed curates from the County Leitrim, rinsing empties and old man in the cellar. Then, lo and behold, they blossom as Adam Findlaters or Dan Tallons. Good puzzle would be cross Dublin without passing a pub." Note: "curate" means barman

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    Bernard Healy

    • 26/Aug/2020 16:55:17

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] It was definitely Findlater's at some stage during my time in Dublin, i.e. late 90s, early 2000s. Here's a picture: www.findlaterbook.com/chapter17.html

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    silverio10

    • 26/Aug/2020 19:54:44

    Buenas fotos antiguas .

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    suckindeesel

    • 26/Aug/2020 21:38:14

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy] See Gibey's history, Redbreast chapter www.redbreastwhiskey.com/en-EN/heritage-1887 So Gilbey's, at least initially According to Wiki was also a liquor museum at one point! "In 1958, C.I.É. opened a liquor museum in the station basement. The exit was to the station refreshment room which was, unlike most other local licensed premises, permitted to sell alcohol in the holy hour between 2pm and 3pm if customers held tickets for distances over 12 miles, namely Bray and beyond. After closure, the museum was moved to the basement of Heuston Station in 1961" Something that Brendan Behan made use of during the holy hour, according to legend.

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    Architecture of Dublin

    • 27/Aug/2020 09:36:14

    There is even a church names after Findlater in Dublin. I wasn't aware until yesterday that its official name isn't even Findlaters en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbey_Presbyterian_Church,_Dublin www.flickr.com/photos/infomatique/49165712057/ And there is still one business named after Findlater, Finlater's bar in Howth www.flickr.com/photos/nagradim/334497652/in/photolist-psS...

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    suckindeesel

    • 27/Aug/2020 12:38:28

    Bray Head, the Market House/Town Hall clock tower and possibly the spire of Byay Christ Church visible in the far distance