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The bridge in Enniscorthy beneath the shadow of the castle is today’s image from the Poole Collection. I love the corner boys sitting on the parapet of the bridge, sharing that male companionship of gossip, slagging, and watching the world go by!
Photographer: A. H. Poole
Collection: The Poole Photographic Collection, Waterford
Date: Deffo after 1919 (Frigidaire brand)
NLI Ref: POOLEWP 3854
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Photographer: A. H. Poole
Collection: The Poole Photographic Collection, Waterford
Date: Deffo after 1919 (Frigidaire brand)
NLI Ref: POOLEWP 3854
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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Foxglove
yes there is a dog
Foxglove
and it's an identifiable breed, this looks like a setter; edit, (thanks George Fitzpatrick) its a springer spaniel
Foxglove
the men sitting on the bridge brings to mind the series of "lunch a top the skyscrapers" in 1930s new york
DannyM8
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ I saw it First!!!
Foxglove
danny, sometimes the finger is mightier than the .... I just love to see that a man can feel comfortable parking himself and wheelbarrow in the road for a chat with the (fantastic description that my dad also used) ... cornerboys
abandoned railways
Car registrations. Waterford City: WI WI 1 to WI 9999 (Jan 1904 – Jan 1966). WI 1047 looks parked. Is it the photographers. www.google.ie/maps/@52.5025535,-6.5656419,3a,60y,219.98h,...
derangedlemur
Ah, Enniscorthy. I once saw a fellow catch an eel off that bridge, I first had chicken and chips on an oval plate in the Bridge Restaurant on the corner, and I trod on a plank with a nail in it that went right through my foot while trying to catch a kitten in a barn just up the road. Now don't even drive through on my way to the ferry any more.
O Mac
I like the two stacks of binder twine...most important use being to keep trousers up.
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
No horse apples!
John Spooner
There was an auctioneer and valuer named John Dowling** in Enniscorthy, advertising a furniture sale at Aughrim on 25th September (Fair Day)* , in the Wicklow People - Saturday 14 September 1929. He may or may not be the same John Dowling of Enniscorthy who owned the greyhounds Doctor Dolittle (New Ross Standard - Friday 26 October 1934) and the disappointing favourite Kanter's Double (New Ross Standard - Friday 29 June 1928) * "At One o'clock (New Time)" ** but he wouldn't be selling cocoa, unless one or other was a sideline
DannyM8
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ I did see it first, but I forgot to press enter!!
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
*NERD ALERT* WI 1047 could well have belonged to Mr Poole. Here is is again, parked on the bridge without a driver (duh!) - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000594489 And also here - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000594488
cargeofg
catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000594488 Reverse view for your Convenience. WI 1047 also in shot parked with no driver
Foxglove
this begs the question, what kind of **model** is the car ha!!
cargeofg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] English Springer Spanial.
cargeofg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove Looks like a Ford Model A
O Mac
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ That reverse view shows a Morris bullnose which was made between 1919 and 1926.
Niall McAuley
per the archive, this shot was commissioned by the British Reinforced Concrete Engineering Company, the modern BRC, incorporated in 1920.
Niall McAuley
Did BRC do work on the bridge or Castle, I wonder?
derangedlemur
The road surface looks like concrete. Maybe they were proud of it. I wonder was it them who put him on to the British Portland Cement Association? www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/28019114532
John Spooner
Available from Kelly's Medical Hall on the other side of the river (Enniscorthy Guardian - Saturday 26 May 1917). Not much use to me I'm afraid.
Niall McAuley
Lady in a cloche hat at right suggests late 1920s to 1930s
Niall McAuley
The butcher brags about his Frigidaire, brand dates from 1919
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
That reverse view also includes a spectacularly ugly metal pissoir, about where this sign now is (for www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ !) - goo.gl/maps/Rj11xzDCHWSPVZ2N6
cargeofg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia As I said above for your convenience. Did not tag you last time as I could not remember who was the person who spotted these.
cargeofg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Bullnose looks a little work worn with slightly bent offside wing.Ford Model A 4.8m produced in different styles inc pick up/ Flatbed 1927-31. Replacement for Model T. One of the signs on the post is an AA one.
derangedlemur
Anyone know what the half beer sign in the reverse is advertising?
John Spooner
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Frigidaire seems to have appeared on this side of the Atlantic in about 1925: "A refrigerator without ice is a novelty in domestic hygiene which is rapidly coming into favour in this country. This machine, which is known as a Frigidaire, runs of the ordinary electric-light circuit" (Westminster Gazette - Tuesday 23 June 1925)
suckindeesel
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] looks like a sign for Pratts High Test, catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000594488 , is it dateable?
derangedlemur
Pratts Hight Test Sealed 1896 Began marketing Pratt's motor spirit. Later introduced Taxibus, Valor and Royal Daylight Lamp Oil. 1899 introduced the use of sealed two-gallon cans for petrol distribution. Through its commercial policy and by the acquisition of competitors the company achieved a dominant position 1935 Anglo-American Oil Co replaced the brand name Pratt's by Esso, to align with other products such as Essolube, Essolene, etc Doesn't tell us a huge amount.
derangedlemur
Going by the advertisements, High Test may have appeared in 1929. www.gracesguide.co.uk/Anglo-American_Oil_Co Edit: None of the memorabilia being hawked online seems any earlier than 1929.
Foxglove
oh earlier, I was really just joking that if the car was repeatedly in Poole photos maybe it was his "model" .....T 🐐
O Mac
The steel electricity pole seen in the other views would appear to be of a type commonly used by the ESB.. ( similar one outside my house today which can be seen in photo I have from 1932 when houses being built..Galway) If ESB then I'd suggest photo is post 1927.
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Aha! Via Trove - Before July 1928 ... "England's[sic] Longest Concrete Road Opened The Enniscorthy - Wexford Road, which is the longest stretch of all-concrete road in the British Isles, being 11 1/4 miles long, was opened by the Irish Free State Minister of Local Government." From - nla.gov.au/nla.obj-344037772/view?sectionId=nla.obj-34746... Local newspapers should have much more detail of this important event...
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
The first concrete road in Ireland in 1927 in Cork - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrigrohane_Straight#Surface
John Spooner
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Concrete roads: The Wexford - Enniscorthy road (11½ miles) was stated to be "the largest stretch of all-concrete road in the British Isles" . The tone of the article was that concrete roads were the future. (The Sketch - Wednesday 27 June 1928). Would that include this bit? Rebuilding the road using concrete was being proposed in early 1927 (New Ross Standard). Something to show off to prospective clients (if you ignore the 29 cracks reported on it in January 1928).
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
British Reinforced Concrete also built this concrete road bridge nearby in 1915 - books.google.com.au/books?id=nfTy6VSUDqMC&pg=PA122&am... Streetview - goo.gl/maps/a5Bpzdsf4DDs66a37
John Spooner
8th August 1930 - proposals were being discussed at a meeting of Enniscorthy Urban Council to resurface numerous streets with "6-inch slab" including Island Road, Bridge and Shannon Quay and parts of Templeshannon. (New Ross Standard - Friday 08 August 1930)
derangedlemur
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Surely after 1928 if this is the road in question?
cargeofg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Just back and saw all this work done re Pratt's sign in reverse view. I will see if I can add anything.
John Spooner
If the photo is dated after November 1928, the photographer was not A H Poole, but probably one of his children.
cargeofg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I would go along with 1929/30 Found a can dated as 1930 Pratts also produced a collection of road maps for the British Isles with High Test on them. These seem to be well documented and dated. They were printed by A E Taylor. First edition ones are about 1930/31 and there is one dated 1931 of Scotland in The National Library of Scotland. https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]
cargeofg
maps.nls.uk/scotland/rec/6043 Link to Pratt's High Test Petrol road map of Scotland. Dated 1931
oaktree_brian_1976
the lady's hat suggests the 1920s, very far right of the image
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Could be a Red Setter there behind the bailing twine.
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] That's some quirky map, I wonder how many early motorists would have toured Scotland using that map, not many I suspect.
Architecture of Dublin
Additionally the number plate of the truck is ZI6167
Architecture of Dublin
Dáil Éireann debate - Wednesday, 19 Oct 1988 Deputy Ivan Yates gave me notice of his intention to raise on the Adjournment the subject matter of the loss of some 30 jobs at Buttles bacon factory, Enniscorthy, County Wexford. The Deputy has some 20 minutes to make his case and the Minister of State has some ten minutes to reply. [www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1988-10-19/18/]
suckindeesel
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Grace gives 1928 for 'ethyl " , I.e. leaded petrol, Grace doesn't mention 'High Test' which was also marketed by Pratts. I suppose a leaded fuel could be described as High Test, an Americanism. But they advertised both types. [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] The earliest High Test map I could find was published 1930. Here's an Ireland map www.ideararemaps.com/en/prodotto/pratts-high-test-plan-of...
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Frigidaire, the company who introduced the use of CFCs in fridges.
suckindeesel
Here's a start date anyway: Nov 1929 for Buttles Barley Fed Bacon Co. app.duedil.com/company/ie/7942/buttle-s-barley-fed-bacon-... which is on the right of picture. C. 1930 seems about right. Edit, site quoted above say incorporated 1929. NIAH www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/15603... says established 1869. So, not so conclusive. NIAH says photographed by Eason and Son and A.H. Poole. Is that plausible?
suckindeesel
An ad for Pratts/Esso High Test and Ethyl, Motorsport magazine 1935 www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article/may-1935/15/pr... So, they sold both High Test and Ethyl , must be a date for the introduction of the High Test
suckindeesel
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] This looks like that sign autohistorysigns.co.uk/product/pratts-high-test-enamel-si...
Architecture of Dublin
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gentlemanofletters/3378861689/in/photostream/
cargeofg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I had found a map of the West Country also dated 1930 but link came across in plain text only. NLS worked better. A touch of the J R R Tolkien type of mapping by A E Taylor methinks. Highly collectable now going by prices on ABE Books. I had found a Pratt's High Test sign but it seemed to be square. It was from a US auction house website and only a thumbnail image. https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Grocery shop that my Dad was manager of had a Mini estate and you could fold down the back seat. It was used for delivering boxes of groceries to customers. All the major food retailers in Ireland and UK are doing nothing new.
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] That sign was unusual, according to the site, in having a red not white background. Described as "1930s"
Foxglove
Kelly Medical Hall www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/15603...