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Where: Leinster, Leix, Ireland
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The weather vane stands still on a quiet day in Mountrath, as the traffic builds up and streets begin to fill. The lady in the pony and trap with the umbrella opened seems at odds given the man in his shirt sleeves on the right of the image.
I love the collection of objects behind the said man!
Photographer: Unknown
Collection: Eason Photographic Collection
Date: between 1900-1920
NLI Ref: Eas 2749
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I love the collection of objects behind the said man!
Photographer: Unknown
Collection: Eason Photographic Collection
Date: between 1900-1920
NLI Ref: Eas 2749
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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nl042
No dog, but we do have a chicken.
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
No clock, but we do have Baker's Circus.
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
... and "Friday May 31st" ... which year did that happen?
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
I'm calling 1912.
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
But possibly 1918...
CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY
www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia/ Don't you wish it was 2020 Ireland.
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Or 1907!
nl042
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia 1899, 1901, 1907, 1912, 1918 All within, or just outside the date range given for the image.
Foxglove
being the person who once spotted a 🐌 I was excited when I saw *chicken* but Nigel was there before me. we must play fair and share those moments of glory
Foxglove
two days ago Niall popped 1905 on a photo as people were sporting straw boaters, there is one here, 1907 / 1912?
suckindeesel
Utterly changed, except I'm in the wrong spot. goo.gl/maps/B1y1v7PbWDJgE61W8
sharon.corbet
https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove I'm always a bit wary of the straw boater dating argument - I mean I was wearing the 21st equivalent over the past 2 weeks! (It was hot and sunny, and juggling normal glasses and sunglasses is a pain.)
Niall McAuley
Straw boaters are indicative but not definitive.
Niall McAuley
Telford shop on the left was still there when the street view car visited, as is The Fountain House pub.
sharon.corbet
25" Map showing fountain and market house. The existence of the market house doesn't help - it was built in about 1748 and was still there (if derelict) in 1962.
sharon.corbet
There's a John Connolly in the 1901 census, who's not in the 1911 census, but his nieces are still there, and it's possible they kept the name. Telford and Dunne are in both.
Niall McAuley
The Fountain House in streetview is marked as Bennetts, and here is Mr Bennett in 1911
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
To further confuse, Mr "Eason" was there on two other occasions. Wet day - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000048083 (no circus posters) catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000048085 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000048070 With more power and telegraph poles, and 1920s cars - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000559659 (from the Market Hall with extra light poles) catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000559656
sharon.corbet
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] I read a faint "T. Dunne" on the sign on the Fountain House which would match with Thomas Dunne next door to Telford's, which is given as a "public house" in the House & Building Return.
Niall McAuley
A couple of references to Bakers Circus in the Leinster Leader in June 1912. 1912 and 13 in the Leinster Express, referred to as Bakers American Circus
sharon.corbet
Thomas Dunne died in 1916, according to the graveyard records which gives his address as "Fountain House, Mountrath".
John Spooner
Irish newspaper references to Baker's Circus from 1893 to 1913, and then once in 1942, so not much help.
cargeofg
Horse drawn bulk motor spirit tanker. Brand Per ... ? Plume Power and Pegasus are the only brand other than Pratts that I know of with a P. Horse drawn tankers were used by Pratts to fuel British Army lorry convoys in England in 1914(WW1). Group of items on pavement bicycle, two barrels, single tine horse drawn cultivator, packing cases marked C&H London, wooden bog barrow and an end over end butter churn. There is another one in front of Telford's. Other circus poster Friday 31 May so that could make it 1907 or 1912 https://www.flickr.com/photos/66151649@N02 Edit G&R London.
oaktree_brian_1976
one of the wooden boxes in the pile says "G&R/London".
cargeofg
Pratts Prefection Motor Spirit on rear of tanker. Flickr is not playing ball with me today. There is a picture of a Horse drawn Pratt's tanker in the Chris Barker collection. Won't copy over for me. Esso had horse drawn tankers in 1910 in the USA and Chris Barker photo is 1914. 1912 for this photo is more likely.
Architecture of Dublin
The circus sign appear to say Baker's Circus and underneath SANTA FE (New Mexico or in Argentina). This would certainly fit with the images of horses and chime with the romantic cowboy culture of the era It might be related to this individual who was from Santa Fe and provided Gauchos for circuses (all speculation of course) - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduardo_Casey More here on providing Santa Fe Gaucho's as horse breakers for circuses - [books.google.co.uk/books?id=agfvVQnBu9MC&pg=PA164&...]
Architecture of Dublin
Just to the left you can barely make out the start of the advertisement for Lipton's tea which we can see in other photos taken on the rainy day in another Eason photo. It is very clear from the other angle. There is also an advert for Pierce cycles [catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000048085]
Architecture of Dublin
Here we can see an advert for both dunlop tyres and BSA Bicycles (Birmingham Small Arms) as well as well as for Home and Colonial Tea [catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000048083]
Architecture of Dublin
https://www.flickr.com/photos/186395973@N06/50087163302/in/datetaken-public/
Foxglove
may 31 was a Friday in 1912, but also in 1907, but the mood shifts to '12
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet Any date for fountain? Cassini shows Market House but no fountain.
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/186395973@N06 1908 onwards for BSA
sharon.corbet
https://www.flickr.com/photos/186395973@N06 Some of the newspaper articles that I saw in 1912/3 were referring to either Baker's American or Mexican circus. https://www.flickr.com/photos/184711311@N04 I didn't see anything regarding the fountain.
O Mac
DIA archive has mention of a fountain and water supply Sept 1899 www.dia.ie/works/view/7782/CO.+LAOIS%2C+MOUNTRATH%2C+FOUN...
John Spooner
https://www.flickr.com/photos/186395973@N06 In the Longford Journal on Saturday 17 May 1913 there is a short article (which would now be probably classed as an 'infomercial') announcing that Baker's Circus was currently touring, and that the top of the bill were Mexicans "who are paying their first visit to Ireland, coming direct from Mexico. The team gives a splendid display of lasso and lariat throwing and stock-whip cracking, and includes Miss Cordite, the world's champion lariat spinner and stock-whip wonder."
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/186395973@N06 Liptons, by royal appointment, but which one? Edit. Victoria - 1901, Edward VII 1901 - 1910 or George V 1910 -
John Spooner
https://www.flickr.com/photos/186395973@N06 Whereas the edition the edition of the same newspaper on March 30th 1912, in a similar infomercial for Baker's Circus, says "the management promises to place before the public a number of attractive terms, foremost in which is the spectacular song scene entitled "Santa Fe" including six bronco mustangs, six gentlemen, six ladies, and auxiliaries".
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner Looks like 1912 is the winner?
nl042
We still haven't answered the most important question, though. Why was the chicken crossing the road? Mr. Eason was most negligent in not asking it.
suckindeesel
www.independent.ie/world-news/ken-mcmanus-26898566.html "Equestrian acts have been key to the modern circus since the 18th Century. Since then family after family -- the Cookes, Gilberts, Bakers, Clarkes, Humels, Sangers, O'Briens, and Fossets all among them -- have made their names with horseback daredevilry."
cargeofg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/184711311@N04 Did you have a look at Pratts Horse drawn tanker in Chris Barker Collection.
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/187095410@N06 No, I'll look now
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/187095410@N06 https://www.flickr.com/photos/131286969@N05/49236646858/in/photolist-2i1SFJs-2aSAmjd-2iNN5ng-2iYqTof-2iKebWT-2hzGcEq-VuP5K8-DXH9xG-PT1Ns4-Ru4NbQ-2eBH7R9-2iJqkqb-2hnpm22-2i4DH6w-2eQStBP-2hTLANe-2hwHasR-2ehovPB-2iWZSgQ-2iLQ7Mz-29AZFPo-2iX2rN3-2h5yVvf-HuCyVa-2iTsj2v-VuP8xH-WwErc6-23Q7S8W-PLz3Wn-EgHEEs-248ujz1-25cSnvr-22FjB75-2b2Pvm1-2dtfjgG-2aB1Xq4-2gTAF7g-2auzpmb A barrel of dynamite! Looks the same setup, dated 1914 Just copy link at top of image and paste here i.e. within the two brackets
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/186395973@N06 Never did come up with a date for Pierce bikes. We saw their ad recently in another street photo. Collins, supposedly, rode a specially built one.
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet He was 69 in 1901, probably passed on by 1911
sharon.corbet
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/184711311@N04] That was my assumption (if by he you mean John Connolly). However, as I said above, it’s not unlikely that his nieces kept the name, as they were already his assistants in 1901. He died in November 1910, though as usual the ages don’t match...
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet I'd think it was common practice to retain the name over the door, even with new owners
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/24700417@N04 "If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principle difference between a dog and a man." --- Mark Twain
oaktree_brian_1976
https://www.flickr.com/photos/187095410@N06 I almost wish it was C&H, Closs and Hambley haberdashers.
oaktree_brian_1976
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet It appears the Fountain House is the second building on the left, with a crest on it. Fxxx House. With a picture of the fountain
cargeofg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/184711311@N04 Thanks for copying it over. I have done it as you say before but no joy yesterday. As you say barrel of dynamite. Bound to be someone nearby with a fag or a pipe on the go.
cargeofg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/66151649@N02 They look like the size of box for a dozen bottles. You would get a lot of spools of thread and cards of buttons in one!
Architecture of Dublin
https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner It must be it. Unless this was a regular thing that happened over the course of a few years or decades. Even still it is probably give or take 5 years of 1912
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/66151649@N02 Fountain House it is https://www.flickr.com/photos/184711311@N04/50090316492/in/dateposted/
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Fernando Guirado
excellent image! congrats on explore!
Wendy:
great to see you made Explore--again!!
Niall McAuley
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/187095410@N06] I think the PER might be for PRATTS PERFECTION MOTOR SPIRIT, can at top left here:
There is a whole Group on FLickr for Pratts signs:
cargeofg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley I did edit in the photo comment later on in the day. You see those displays of cans at Vintage and Steam fairs all over the UK. Very interesting to speak with the collector and you do see some rare cans. Cast Iron seats, brass paraffin blowlamps, Dairy equipment and butter churns display collections are other ones to be seen. Some of the guys that collect these items could write a thesis on their speciality.