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Where: Munster, Tipperary, Ireland

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When: 30 April 1926

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A tablet in a church somewhere, commissioned by a loving brother for his late sister, from the Poole Collection. With Poole, one can normally expect it to be in Waterford but the late Josephine Eliza lived outside Clonmel. So where is this tablet, and where do the Hamertons enjoy their eternal rest?

Photographer: A. H. Poole

Collection: The Poole Photographic Collection, Waterford

Date: ca. 30 April 1926

NLI Ref: POOLEWP 3359

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    derangedlemur

    • 30/Jun/2020 07:53:17

    Someone of that name was working as a servant (nurse) in Castleknock in 1901. presumably not the same one though, as she'd have been a Parker before marriage.

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    O Mac

    • 30/Jun/2020 08:01:28

    In that sweet tongue the jingled maid cajoled and cursed, implored and prayed, Because her father's well-filled purse abduction brought ......and brought a curse.

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    derangedlemur

    • 30/Jun/2020 08:02:55

    No sign of Josephine Parker/Hammerton, Colonel Joseph Parker or Mathew Millett Hammerton in the census.

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    B-59

    • 30/Jun/2020 08:05:03

    Josephine Eliza Parker (9 Dec 1843-23 May 1925) m. Matthew Millett Hamerton (d.23 Aug 1919) on 15 Apr 1868 at St. Anne's (Church of Ireland), Dublin - see churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/reels/d-344-3-4-084.pdf ( from www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=510659.0)

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    B-59

    • 30/Jun/2020 08:20:02

    Steeple view: goo.gl/maps/eZZvp592YRkgeD2n9

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    derangedlemur

    • 30/Jun/2020 08:51:28

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Rathronan Protestant Church Voruebergehend Geschlossen? There's no roof on it!

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    abandoned railways

    • 30/Jun/2020 08:54:06

    I seen to remember the Parker's were related to the Grubb's in Clonmel. They were a prominent Quaker family.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 30/Jun/2020 09:07:41

    Mathew and Josephine at home in the 1911 census. He is listed as Roman Catholic, she as Plymouth Brethren. Likewise in 1901 They had 7 children, 6 still living in 1911.

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    O Mac

    • 30/Jun/2020 09:14:35

    It would appear that the Hamerton Millett connection had dubious beginnings. "It is possible that the abduction in March 1769 by John Hamerton, farmer, of Orchardstown, Co. Tipperary, of Mary Millett, only child of John Millett, gent., of Knockura, in the same county, was motivated by a desire to alleviate a large mortgage debt due on the Hamerton lands which he had recently inherited." from..." Forcibly Without Her Consent:" Abductions in Ireland, 1700-1850 By Thomas P. Power books.google.ie/books?id=spQThHZYCFkC&pg=PT38&lpg... The Matthew Millett Hamerton above was probably a grandson of said abductor, John Millet (General) Hamerton being his father.

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    Carol Maddock

    • 30/Jun/2020 09:17:28

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley We've had interesting Plymouth Brethren connections before, but crikey, is this our first abduction thread, https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]?

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    O Mac

    • 30/Jun/2020 09:25:53

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] It's interesting in that the before mentioned church has a connection with the infamous Arbuthnot abduction in 1854. you're getting two abductions for the price of one today. victoriancalendar.blogspot.com/2011/06/july-281854-irish-...

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 30/Jun/2020 09:37:14

    Red Herring ... There are two Rathronan cemeteries in Co. Limerick (you would not want to wake up in the wrong one!). The other is at Ardagh, and has the tomb of William Smith O'Brien. commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:William_Smith_O_Brien_Bur... www.findagrave.com/memorial/185087976/william-smith-o_brien [https://www.flickr.com/photos/internetarchivebookimages/14593800738/]

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    Carol Maddock

    • 30/Jun/2020 09:45:09

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] You wait ages for an abduction, and then two come along at the same time!

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    derangedlemur

    • 30/Jun/2020 09:46:45

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Weird. I must have spelt them wrong.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 30/Jun/2020 10:42:06

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I think the Arbuthnot abduction came up before at some point, but I can't remember what it was in connection with.

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    an poc

    • 30/Jun/2020 11:01:32

    The Hamerton connection with Rathronan goes a long way back - see (what seems to be) the inscription on the tower: www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2607681/rathronan-cemetery

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    an poc

    • 30/Jun/2020 11:21:36

    Nenagh Guardian, 19 March 1932, 2: TIPPERARY CHURCH ON FIRE Smoke emerging from the windows of Rathronan Protestant Church attracted the attention of a lorry driver named English, of Knocklofty on Monday evening, as he was driving past the place about 7 o'clock p.m. He immediately gave the alarm, and it was ascertained a fire had broken out in the church. Within a short time a number of people from the locality collected and were arduously engaged in the work of extinguishing the fire by carrying water in buckets from a pond some 200 yards away, and were it not for their timely intervention the fire might have been of a more serious nature.

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    an poc

    • 30/Jun/2020 11:27:55

    The Nationalist, 16 March 1932, 1, notes that the damage was limited and the origin of the fire unknown.

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    an poc

    • 30/Jun/2020 11:32:31

    Josephine Hamerton died at Clashanisky, Clonmel: civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/death...

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    an poc

    • 30/Jun/2020 11:33:10

    I wonder if this memorial still survives inside the church? Sometimes when a church was deconsecrated the memorials and furnishings would be moved to another church

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    derangedlemur

    • 30/Jun/2020 13:27:49

    I only just noticed; https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] is back. Welcome back, O Mac!

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    CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY

    • 01/Jul/2020 04:50:31

    www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley/ can a "she" be a "Brethren", especially in that day and age?

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    John Spooner

    • 01/Jul/2020 07:17:38

    In January 1862 at the School of Art (Atheneum) in Limerick a Josephine Parker won a medal for "a shaded drawing of fruit from the cast". Our Josephine would have been 17 or 18 in January 1862. (as reported in the Tipperary Vindicator)

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Jul/2020 15:49:08

    All 7 children are recorded at irishgeneology.ie: Helena, John, Mathew, Josephine, Susan, Albert and Robert. Susan died aged 1.

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    Dr. Ilia

    • 03/Jul/2020 08:00:08

    Awesome...