A fire in the night makes a street urchin’s delight...

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A little bit of photo journalism from Mr. Chandler for today’s image provides us with a street scene. A fire brigade with hoses and ladders deployed, accompanied by a crowd of people entering a building and just hanging around. One barefoot boy stands with what looks like a squash racket in his hand which may have been “liberated” from the affected building. When, where, what, and how come to mind??

Photographers: Edward C. Chandler

Collection: Edward C Chandler Photographic Collection


Date: Undated

NLI Ref: NPA CHA12

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
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    derangedlemur

    • 12/Jun/2020 07:59:38

    I'll get my guess in early and then see if I can actually find it. Stephen's Green (South).

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    derangedlemur

    • 12/Jun/2020 08:00:25

    When and how? The butler did it with a candlestick, at two in the morning.

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    Foxglove

    • 12/Jun/2020 08:04:50

    I am working on the words in the broken window, also are some of the holes in the wall and defined holes in window from bullets ? yes, there may not be a dog (yet) but there are bare foot children

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    derangedlemur

    • 12/Jun/2020 08:10:29

    Well, that was a miss, anyway.

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    derangedlemur

    • 12/Jun/2020 08:11:38

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove It does look a bit shooty, alright.

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    derangedlemur

    • 12/Jun/2020 08:13:46

    I've found this nice view of 124 Stephen's Green West in the archives. catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000736334

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    derangedlemur

    • 12/Jun/2020 08:16:37

    Is it this one on Parnell Square? goo.gl/maps/9oXxoz5L7qG91SHr9

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    Foxglove

    • 12/Jun/2020 08:21:26

    yes, it looks like the Youth reach building

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    Carol Maddock

    • 12/Jun/2020 08:22:04

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] By George, I think you’ve got it! I'm raging. I had been scouting around the wrong sides of Parnell Square.

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    derangedlemur

    • 12/Jun/2020 08:26:35

    it seems to be Fowler Hall (10 Rutland Square) which was attacked during the civil war and set on fire.

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    Foxglove

    • 12/Jun/2020 08:27:11

    have googled 10 Parnell sq, every other building seems to have trade union, IRB and misc cultural links .... but not No.10

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    derangedlemur

    • 12/Jun/2020 08:27:51

    stillslibrary.rte.ie/indexplus/image/0505/037.html

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    derangedlemur

    • 12/Jun/2020 08:55:08

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove It was an Orange Lodge.

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    Foxglove

    • 12/Jun/2020 08:58:26

    yes ! you smacked it down and the remaining letters "fow" and "mem" in the lintel window make sense now.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 12/Jun/2020 09:19:53

    From a different angle in 1915 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/5997404467/

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 12/Jun/2020 09:31:46

    Looks like it was Wednesday 28 June 1922 in the afternoon. Read All About It! via Trove - trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/145845053 "... a fire broke out in Fowler Hall shortly after noon. One report stated that the rebels set fire to it. Snipers were firing from roofs, but it was difficult to ascertain to which side they belonged. Hundreds of spectators lined the quays and streets adjacent to the affected area, and business was suspended. ... ... The rebels seized Barry's Hotel and the Women's Trade Union Club and Orange Hall, and Regulars invested* both places. The fire brigade did excellent work. When Fowler Hall was set on fire they managed to quell the outbreak. ..." [* - "Invest - ARCHAIC - surround (a place) in order to besiege or blockade it."]

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    derangedlemur

    • 12/Jun/2020 09:36:55

    I wonder, did the bit at the top of the lintel say something very loyal and orange or did it just fall off? I don't see anything in the photo.

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    suckindeesel

    • 12/Jun/2020 12:50:32

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Whatever that bit on top of lintel was, It seems to have been since removed. Streetview goo.gl/maps/Q2Hu2g66yFt1aLrr8

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    John Spooner

    • 12/Jun/2020 15:39:18

    Birmingham Daily Gazette pictured the conflagration before the fire brigade did its stuffBirmingham Daily Gazette - Friday 30 June 1922

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    John Spooner

    • 12/Jun/2020 15:41:34

    The eponymous Mr Fowler (Weekly Freeman's Journal - Sunday 16 July 1922) Weekly Freeman's Journal - Sunday 16 July 1922

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 12/Jun/2020 22:30:44

    Mr Edward C. Chandler took another photo a little to the left; he seems (like the boys) to have been fascinated by 'AERIAL LADDER D' - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000671739/HierarchyTree

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 12/Jun/2020 22:37:05

    Woohoo! And another from a different angle (near the church). Looks like there was a motor fire engine there too - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000671730/HierarchyTree Ed. The motor fire engine looks like the Dublin Leyland one spotted on a trip to Cork in 1920 - [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/17156792989/]

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    cargeofg

    • 13/Jun/2020 09:38:52

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia RI 2080 is listed as HM(Heavy Motor) and registered to Dublin Fire Brigade on the Lennonwylie website. I was struggling to make the number was it RI 209 or RI 208. RI 209 was missing from the list and RI 208 was listed as a car. But the RI list does run up in to the 1000s so checked on till it appeared.

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    suckindeesel

    • 13/Jun/2020 21:21:04

    The Fowler Hall was the largest Orange Lodge in Dublin before being taken over by the IRA. It was used to house and feed refugees fleeing from the north. A large cache of rifles and ammo was found hidden in the basement during renovations in 1935. Initially thought to have been left behind by the IRA, it turned out that they were hidden there during the time of the Home Rule debates by a Loyalist group called the Loyal Dublin Volunteers (LDV). Presumably to be used against their fellow countrymen. "IN June 1935, a Dublin Board of Works employee was among a group working at part of the Dublin GPO (General Post Office), the men having been assigned to remove presses from the cellar of the GPO Customs Parcels Section, located at 10 Parnell Square. When several presses were removed however, some mortar appeared insecure, and when touched, collapsed. Upon further investigation the employee realised he had uncovered a large cavity several feet long. Within it, in perfectly dry conditions, lay a massive arms cache. He had discovered over 90 rifles and over 2000 rounds of ammunition." comeheretome.com/2013/05/28/an-interesting-1913-article-o...

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    suckindeesel

    • 14/Jun/2020 21:04:58

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove Yes, home to many TUs, including the former home of my old union. Many owe their origins to the pioneering work of Countess Markievicz, who encouraged activists in British based craft unions to establish the Irish Engineering, Shipbuilding and Foundry Trades Union. Of course, there were the inevitable splits later on, leading to more craft unions.

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    rpgvlwqt88

    • 15/Jun/2020 12:47:28

    I'm guessing the boys gazing at events are from Belvedere College, which was abut a 150 metres away on Great Denmark Street. Scoil Mhuire (which was about 150 metres away on the North Side of Parnell Square) didn't move to the Parnell Square premises until 1933. Edit: they aren't wearing shoes so probably aren't from Belvedere College but does pose the question where did they get the raquet from

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    rpgvlwqt88

    • 08/Feb/2021 20:22:57

    and here is a very similar photo of the same building from the BNF Gallica (the French national library) gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b53084072v.r=dublin?rk=1866...