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The old catchphrase for Power families was “More Power said old Power when new Power was born” and Mr. Richard Power of Belvedere, Tramore was able to say that a lot of times!
A delightful family group from the Poole Collection, taken on the steps of their home. Mr and Mrs Power were busy, but produced a very handsome family.
Photographer: A. H. Poole
Collection: The Poole Photographic Collection, Waterford
Date: ca. 13 June 1925
NLI Ref: POOLEWP 3288
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A delightful family group from the Poole Collection, taken on the steps of their home. Mr and Mrs Power were busy, but produced a very handsome family.
Photographer: A. H. Poole
Collection: The Poole Photographic Collection, Waterford
Date: ca. 13 June 1925
NLI Ref: POOLEWP 3288
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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sharon.corbet
Careful or you might overPower us!
Niall McAuley
Streetview?
O Mac
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ your link opens a flickr page Niall.
Niall McAuley
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Thanks! Edited, try now. If that is the house, it has been altered.
Niall McAuley
The steps look correct, but the door/windows don't
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet Sorry Sharon, our connections appear to be faulty!
O Mac
Niall McAuley It doesn't look like the same house..... unless taken out the back.
debmalyamazumder
It is a beautiful capture. Congratulation!
O Mac
There's a heap of photos of same family but only this other one digimatized(sic) catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000593877/MooviewerImg?mobile...
sharon.corbet
We were next door a couple of weeks ago: https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/49862480917
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
ShirleySurely it's not Belvedere? imho 13 June 1925 was a Saturday ...cargeofg
Yes. A house named Shirley but now renamed Clonlara. https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia There was a lot of input and first hand information for that posting.
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There is a plan, we do have a plan! A PowerPlan.
Tintin et Milou
Interesting that although most of the group do look "1920s" the little girl holding the ball has (what looks to me at any rate) an old fashioned Edwardian style of ringlets for her hair.
Bernard Healy
Richard Power was a bookmaker: www.limerickcity.ie/media/07 19 1932 creed.pdf (Can't get that link to work!) I _think_ that Paddy Power Bookmakers are connected to Richard Power's firm. (If you google "Richard Power" Belvedere Tramore amongst the results will be a pdf on the limerickcity.ie website with an advert confirming his profession & address.)
sharon.corbet
I found a newspaper article from 1939 on the funeral of Richard Power Jr. It mentions the chief mourners as: Mr & Mrs. Power Mr. P, Mr. R and Master D. Power (brothers) Mrs. Cassidy, Misses N., G., L. and C. Power (sisters).
sharon.corbet
A different article from 1946 on the death of Richard Power Sr, gives me names: Patrick (also a bookmaker) Redmond (chartered accountant) David (medical student) Mrs. Terry Cassidy Gemma Noeline Leonie Celine Plus an unnamed other daughter who was a nun in Liverpool.
Bernard Healy
This seems to have been him in 1911 - living in Newtown Road, Waterford: www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Water... Wife is Annie T Power. Richard aged 37 in 1911 - therefore, he's about 51 in the picture. No children in 1911, although I would guess that the eldest daughter in the picture must have been born shortly after the census as she can't be too much younger than 14 in the pic.
sharon.corbet
Here are Patrick, born 1911, Anne born 1913, Robert Redmond born 1914, Noeline born 1915 and Gemina born 1917.
Bernard Healy
And here's their wedding cert - civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marri... Richard Power marrying Annie Owens in St Andrew's Church, Dublin in 1909. She was from Roscrea. I'll leave the rest of the tracing to someone else. I have work to do! Tracing the offspring of the Power/Owens family should be easy enough on the Civil Records website.
sharon.corbet
Anne married James Cassidy in 1936.
sharon.corbet
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy Already done!
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
The Powers look like a nuclear family, which coincidentally also dates from 1925 - www.quora.com/Whats-the-etymology-of-a-nuclear-family
Bernard Healy
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Well done! Again, your comments didn’t appear on my end until after I posted. Looking at the pic, I’d have thought the girl was the tallest & therefore eldest child. Have you managed to make a guess at naming the kids in the picture?
sharon.corbet
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy I went back to looking at newspaper articles to see if I could get at least the order of the younger kids straight. David is the youngest son, and Leonie is the second youngest daughter. The "other" daughter is Sister Anna of Mary, Notre Dame Convent in Liverpool. I think the order of the girls is Anne, Noeline, Gemina, Sister Anna, Leonie and finally Celine.
sharon.corbet
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy] Oh, and you're right Paddy Power is connected to Richard Power. Here's an interview in the Indo with Paddy Power, PR spokesperson for Paddy Power the company. In it he tells the following story: In 1896 his great-grandfather, Richard Power, worked in a drapery store in Tramore, Co Waterford. He was often sent to the illegal bookie to place bets for his employers. "He copped on that he was never sent out to collect the proceeds, so instead he used to go out and have a smoke and keep the money," says Paddy. One day, he met his boss at the Tramore races when he should have been at work. Instead of returning to the dull job, "he pulled up a tea chest, started shouting the odds, and became a bookie from that day forward. He was an amazing character." Richard Power passed the chain to his son Paddy, who died suddenly, leaving the business with his wife Bunty and their 16-year-old son, David Power – this Paddy's father.
Bernard Healy
An article about a grandson of Richard www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-an...
sharon.corbet
There's also a bit more of the history of the link between Richard Power and Paddy Power on the wikipedia talk page for Paddy Power, including where the name for the company came from.
an poc
Cork Examiner, 16 Oct 1920, 3: 'Mr. Richard Power, Tramore, has opened a branch of his business in Cork at 8 Pembroke Street. Telegrams: "Silk," Cork. All commissions, letter, wire, or phone, attended to. Telegrams: "Silk," Cork. 'Phone 1112.' Is this the same Richard?
an poc
And from around the time this photo was taken: Waterford News, 5 June 1925, 8: RICHARD POWER BELVEDERE, TRAMORE. Telegrams: "Stripes," Tramore. Telephone: 11. DUNGARVAN: 6 Crossbridge St. Telegraphic Address: "Crimson," Dungarvan. Telephone: No. 4. WATERFORD: Arundel Square. Telephone: 278. Telegrams: "Sapphire."
Bernard Healy
BTW, I see that the Marys make reference to a Power catchphrase in the description. When I was in primary school our headmaster - one of the last of the old-style National School Teachers - taught us a bunch of proverbs and phrases, including: "Beidh lá eile ag an bPaorach" - in other words, "Power will have another day!" I suppose the English equivalent is something like "We live to fight another day." The Master could never tell us who 'Power' was. Various internet sources suggested that it might have come from a chieftan of the a Power clan of Waterford who was defeated in battle but escaped with his life, or from one Edward Power of Dungarvan who was executed for taking part in the 1798 Rebellion.
Bernard Healy
Re - Annie Owens - I reckon this is her in 1901. She's 18 and has got a start in the drapery business in Waterford. www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Water... The rest of her family in Roscrea: www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Roscr... Presumably Valley Street. This is to match the info on the Marriage Cert. And her 1882 birth cert showing her middle name to be Josephine: civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth... Richard Senior's death cert shows he died at home in 1946 RIP. civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/death... Presumably this is his birth cert: civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth... Per marriage cert his father was a farmer called Richard Power & the location make sense - Duagh is between Waterford and Tramore.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet I wonder did they work at the same drapery store together? I see in the Irish Times archive (Saturday, May 20, 1939) that Richard Junior died fllowing a collision with another cyclist competitor in a road race from Waterford to Tramore, the previous Sunday.
Bernard Healy
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] They must have! Look - here is Richard at house 45.1 on Merchant's Quay. www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Water... Annie Owens was at house 45.4. My reading of the Census data is that House 45 on Merchant's Quay was a drapery warehouse with staff accomodation. www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001235190/ Note that you had 49 people living there. So, yes, they presumably worked together there, although I'm sure the accomodation was carefully segregated by gender. I wonder if any of the Waterford history buffs can indentify the firm. The 'Head of Household' is listed as a Patrick Walsh aged 19!
Bernard Healy
I suppose Kelly's is a candidate - it seems to have been in existence back then and is beyond the Bank of Ireland, but I'm out of my depth here as I know nothing about Waterford's history. goo.gl/maps/XgwJSJuef3h4tGMR8
sharon.corbet
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy] There's the 1894 Waterford Directory which has 2 separate Kelly's draperies on the Quays, as well as several others! Oh wait, I think it might be Hearnes - 3 shops after the Bank. [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/42196769984]
Bernard Healy
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet] And next door to a hotel, as per the census. That certainly fits the bill. I think you have it. Looks like the hotel devoured it! goo.gl/maps/wRXsZihN4F8m1u1F7
sharon.corbet
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy We've previously encountered some of the tailors from Hearne's. I wonder if this was before or after Richard Power packed it in to become a bookie: https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/16222784641
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet Great work, if we give you a little more time I think you might tie all of our Waterford photos together via this one!
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy I've devoured a few good meals there myself, back in the day