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When: 16 June 1954
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A visit to the Wiltshire Collection today, and a return to Bloomsday in 1954. The title on the image is “Unidentified man holding copy of “Ulysses”, others in background, Michael Scott’s house, Sandycove, Co. Dublin” and it shows a queue to a booth while in the foreground two men in deep conversation while one shows his copy of the book. We have been to Mr. Scotts house before but who are the men?
Photographer: Elinor Wiltshire
Collection: Wiltshire Photographic Collection
Date: Bloomsday 1954
NLI Ref: WIL pk15[6]
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Photographer: Elinor Wiltshire
Collection: Wiltshire Photographic Collection
Date: Bloomsday 1954
NLI Ref: WIL pk15[6]
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Bloomsday, 16 June 1954 was a Wednesday ... VW Beetle bonnet?
Carol Maddock
Morning Mary, please clean your pince-nez and have a closer look. ;) That’s not a booth. That’s the carriage they’d been swanning around Dublin in (please excuse me, while I tuck away that dangling preposition). https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/9054949487/
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
There were two carriages in this birds-eye view, and also from the street - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000050506 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000050374 Can anyone identify the American car behind the VW?
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia looks like a Chevy name badge, but don't know my models, some sort of land yacht, anyway.
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Is that not a Cab?
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Are they not Cabs?
Foxglove
I think Joyce might have enjoyed playing with a "dangling preposition" ...
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia How does Lennox and the Dog tie in with all of this? https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/34195798906
Foxglove
The man on right is wearing clip-on shades to his glasses, have not seen that for ages
O Mac
National Library of Ireland on The Commons It would be a "Handsome Cab" edit. actually I'm wrong with myself.. handsome cabs have one axle... I apologize with haste for haste
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] It is quite pretty!
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove I believe the date given is the Silver Jubilee of Bloomsday (16th June 1904).
cargeofg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Correct it is a VW beetle.
O Mac
Possible a Brougham. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brougham_(carriage)
O Mac
Entertaining footage of the "lads" leaving Goggins in Monkstown on their way out to Sandycove. youtu.be/A0gNNWHmj9Q Brian O Nolan is fairly sozzled.
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
There were at least three other photographers there - near the bonnet of the Chevvy - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000050506 And the lovely Elinor (spotted previously) seated against the house, loaded with camera stuff, and next to a photographer - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000050376
Carol Maddock
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland I think you'll find that classy people like myself and https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia consider that form of conveyance to be a carriage.
Carol Maddock
https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove Indeed. Wasn't there a lot about his dangling preposition on Sandymount Strand?
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Could the photographer be her husband Reginald?
cargeofg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Chevrolet Styleline 4door sedan 235cu in 6cyl engine. Other model variants were 2Dr coupe, fastback and estate They ran 1948 to 1954 Edit 1952
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Quite a few of them are "tired and emotional!"
cargeofg
www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/33675998856/in/photoli...
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Then who took the photograph? It looks like they were all good chums, after a drink or six. Flickr is sometimes amazing! In 2007 via https://www.flickr.com/photos/prawnwarp/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/prawnwarp/1812717076/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I see the VW and a big Yank Tank (the Chevvy?) in https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]'s film at about 0:57 ...
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia that is a good point you raise about who took the Photo!
cargeofg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia VW come in at 0.54 and Chevrolet Styleline comes in at 0.56 from side road by the building site. VW Beetle dates from 1953 to 1956 latest because of small oval rear window. Visible through the Chevrolet in one of your linked photos above. Also notice the Chev is RHD. They all look "well oiled" the humans not the cars.
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] I am not convinced the car in the film is the Chevrolet, 'cos of this other shot (horse-arse view!) of the procession. Hmmm ... catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000050384
cargeofg
Hmmm I would say you are right Chev in Companion photos at house has AA badge on RHside of bumper and when you look at h-a-v grille is different and outline in centre maybe a AA badge but could be a makers badge. If you study film clip from 0.51 onwards This car does not exit from side road as I said earlier but does a U turn. Horses head partly masks but at 0.54 you can see a lot more chrome trim on front wing. Will see if i can find what it is but maybe a Ford V8 https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I think this type of large American was used as a taxi in Dublin post war. Most other people couldn't even afford a Beetle.
nlpnt
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] A fine carriage to be sure, but I think I'd rather go in the sunroof Bug.
amorianopoulos
As a Greek one, I do love this photo. Omeros inspire everyone. J.James also <3
Bernard Healy
I'm not an expert in publishing, but the edition of Ulysses being held by the older man should be identifiable. A bit of googling tells me that particular dust jacket was a Bodley Head edition. The bow motif on the spine was originally designed by the notorious Eric Gill and was on the front cover of the front cover of the 1st British edition of 1936 by the Bodley Head, and was used on the spine of later editions. The title appearing TWICE on the front cover is certainly a feature of the Bodley Head editions from the 1960s, but we seem to be in the 1950s here. There is a 'First Trade Edition' from 1936 that had the bow on the spine, but the title only appeared once on the front cover. Ah! A little more googling turns up this 1954 edition that matches the one in the picture: www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=30613602922&... Anyway, is it possible that the chap holding the book is in the publishing trade and associated with The Bodley Head? He seems to be holding the book with a certain amount of purpose. (I know, the 1st Bloomsday was an informal affair and the formal presence of a publisher seems unlikely...)
an poc
The man to the left of the man with the hat looks like Anthony Cronin
cargeofg
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000050393 A different car again AA badge to drivers side and number plate ZH 7255 up above bumper. Maybe the used different hackney cars during the day. Hail up another one after each pub instead of having one wait. The horse drawn carriages and VW Beetle ( car for some of the photographers) were the only constant modes of transport. Just conjour up an image of [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]03] in the VW with sunroof open and standing on passenger seat camera in hand !!
O Mac
The Chevvy in... catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000050506 ... looks more like the 1949 Fleetline Fastback than the heretofore mentioned Styleline. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Fleetline#/media/File%3...
Bernard Healy
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Based on some of the other photos taken that day, I’d say you’re right.
suckindeesel
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Here's a pic which includes Anthony Cronin, taken on Sandymount Strand on that day. www.theguardian.com/books/2017/jan/24/anthony-cronin-obit...
suckindeesel
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Did you mean this infamous scene? youtu.be/3S7hJdYdnpw at 0.48
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
"Mr Bookholder" is seen staring up at the camera at right - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000050376. He has a striped tie and possibly no thumb on his right hand. [Golly, we are having tons of fun with this one; thanks NLI }
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There is a report on this party in the Irish Times dated 17th June 1954. It mentions “a simple procession of two cabs and a few motor-cars making their way citywards….the first Bloomsday commemorative pilgrimage”. It mentions Michael Scott, Myles na Gopalee, Thomas Michael Joyce (who had never met his cousin) and a gent from the West Indies called Michael Costello. I also see “Since nine o’clock two cabbies had been waiting patiently with their respective cabs to provide transport for the itinerants” Later in the piece the writer mentions https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia “The party was interrupted for a moment when Lennox Robinson and his dog passed by, but an effort to borrow his dog for a little tableau on Sandymount Strand was unsuccessful. https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Please take note of the embolded words :-) Goodnight, Mary.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia I wonder was it Elinor who was "unsuccessful" in persuading Lennox to loan the dog?
DannyM8
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ I wonder what the "tableau" with the Dog entailed?
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] It is a definite maybe from me! Who could resist the charming Elinor? Re - "cab", "carriage", and "booth" controversy. How about "Cabriolet" ? See megazoom oval plate under the driver's bench here, no. 747 - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000050543 And no. 412 - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000050505
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Cabriolet works for me, Cab for short!
O Mac
National Library of Ireland on The Commons BeachcomberAustralia I'll not question that the word "cab" derives from Cabriolet. I will question that the type of carriage pictured is a Cabriolet. By definition a Cabriolet is single axled and has a folding roof. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabriolet_(carriage) We're looking at a pair of Broughams here. "Three features specific to the Brougham were. the sharply squared end of the roof at the back, the body line curving forward at the base of the enclosure, and low entry to the enclosure, using only one outside step below the door." en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brougham_(carriage)
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I see both your links have "carriage" ... ... ... ♬ Life is a Cabriolet, old chum ... ♬
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I hear your argument and I would like to hear what your co-conspirator https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] has to say on the matter, before I comment further.
O Mac
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Where did ye find the quavers? ... jealous.....
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O Mac
great... moms the word.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] 😉😇
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Shall we stop?
O Mac
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ you're the boss.
whiteenodj
The man with "The Book". I believe he is Roderick Hogan, Remount House, Lusk, Co Dublin. He had connections to Dublin City Council and Dublin County Council and was, I believe involved with Planning. This picture bears an uncanny resemblance to " Rhody Hogan" my Uncle by marriage.