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Where: Munster, Cork, Ireland

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When: 01 January 1870

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This VERY big house at the side of the water and in the wooded hills looks like a wonderful retreat for those seeking isolation. The gentlemen taking these stereo pairs images were no mean photographers, and a study of them would do a budding photographer no harm at all!

Can I just say that posting last Friday, I thought that the drawing would be a damp squib, even at the bottom of the sea, but in fact, it proved to be both interesting and entertaining. Thank you all!

Photographers: Frederick Holland Mares, James Simonton

Contributor: John Fortune Lawrence

Collection: Stereo Pairs Photograph Collection

Date: between ca. 1860-1883

NLI Ref: STP_2068

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    O Mac

    • 11/May/2020 08:01:11

    Looks like Flatley's place

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    O Mac

    • 11/May/2020 08:03:30

    Castle Hyde, www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/local-history-round-up-f...

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 11/May/2020 08:06:34

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] How?

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    Foxglove

    • 11/May/2020 08:11:13

    cue the music and the sweep and glide of dancers...... Monday, 09.06 and the gander is out of the praitie hole

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 11/May/2020 08:13:49

    Same time as catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000339172 ?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 11/May/2020 08:26:46

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia You are all too good at this game!!

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 11/May/2020 08:27:30

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove 9.02!

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    cargeofg

    • 11/May/2020 08:39:23

    bit.ly/3cn0lql OSI 25" with original castle ruins marked also.

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    derangedlemur

    • 11/May/2020 08:56:54

    Well, if you need something else to amuse yourselves now that [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] has ruined this for everyone (I would never do such a thing, perish the thought), this image appeared in the Graun yesterday with a caption claiming it's O'Connell bridge, but neither streetview nor historic photos provide any sort of match. Where is it really? www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2020/may/09/colour-allow...

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    John A. Coffey

    • 11/May/2020 08:59:40

    Did Mr. Mares take the left, and Mr. Simonton the right ? how many photographers does it ..............

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 11/May/2020 09:07:45

    Have a sticky-beak! In 2018 - youtu.be/I5IdZ27CHgo

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 11/May/2020 09:37:40

    Via Trove, a yarn about a song ... ... "An itinerant poet, with the view of being paid for his trouble, composed a song in praise (as he doubtless Intended it) - of Castle Hyde, the beautiful seat of the Hyde family on the River Blackwater; but Instead of the expected remuneration the poor poet was driven from the gate by order of the then proprietor, who, from the absurdity of the thing, conceived that it could only have been meant as a mockery, and, in fact, a more nonsensical composition could scarcely escape the pen of a maniac. The song first became a favourite with the populace, then found its way into ballads, and at length Into the convivial meetings of gentlemen. It was in one of these that Mr. Mllliken undertook, In the gaiety of the moment, to produce a song that, if not superior, should be at least equal In absurdity to Castle Hyde; and, accordingly, adopting tho tune and taking Blarney for, his subject, he soon made good his promise." ... ... CASTLE HYDE" (From a Ballad-Sheet). As I rode out one summer's morning Down by the banks of Blackwater side; To view the groves and meadows charming, And pleasant gardens of Castle Hyde. It is there you will hear the thrushes warbling, The dove and partridge, I now describe; The lambkin sporting each night and morning, All to adorn sweet Castle Hyde. ... ... ... From - trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/228736505?searchTerm=%... (1905)

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    cargeofg

    • 11/May/2020 10:18:55

    Like https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] a bit off topic but while doing a bit of research on viaducts over the weekend came across plate L-ROY-OOO61 https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland in Cork also in The Lawrence Collection. Labeled as Laclash Castle? Could not find it anywhere. But via the railway and OSI25" I am sure it is Carrigabrick Castle.https://bit.ly/3fHBEay Map and Plate have same number of Piers.

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    suckindeesel

    • 11/May/2020 10:57:35

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Could that be your 'castle in ruins' hiding in the trees on hill behind castle to the left? Better view in catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000339172

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    cargeofg

    • 11/May/2020 11:15:16

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] There is a castle ruin there. I am on the Rosslare Fishguard Railway viaduct in plate L-ROY-00061. We are on bad panda mode here as I got OSI link to copy over earlier and now it won't or the link from NLI.

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    suckindeesel

    • 11/May/2020 12:01:56

    Another YouTube video tour, this time by the man himself youtu.be/25q6ybsSqLo

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    suckindeesel

    • 11/May/2020 12:19:28

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] It is indeed Carrigabrick Castle and viaduct. See earth.app.goo.gl/?link=https://earth.google.com/web/@52.1... for some nice photos of ruin and viaduct, which are still there, unlike the track itself.

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    suckindeesel

    • 11/May/2020 12:22:02

    Family connection to Douglas Hyde?

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    sharon.corbet

    • 11/May/2020 13:06:39

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] South Dublin Libraries claimed the corner of Aston Quay and Westmoreland St. which I was initially scoffing at. Turns out they're right - see the bottom part of the building on the right. Approximate Streetview.

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    cargeofg

    • 11/May/2020 14:09:53

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Thank you You can still see the footprint of the railway a couple of fields to the right. I wonder if someone like us will have same discussion about the M8 in 150/200 years time. If you go back to my earlier comment and link to Globalmansions. Douglas Hyde is referenced

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    derangedlemur

    • 11/May/2020 14:22:19

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet] Well done. I had only found this one, catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000671978, which looked nearly right, but not quite.

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    suckindeesel

    • 11/May/2020 15:43:14

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] As we travel down the old M8 on our electric tandem, a couple of centuries in the future, dodging the potholes and the grass growing in the middle, we'll wonder why our ancestors built such a wide cycle lane. Nobody has hazarded a guess as to date so I wonder if that viaduct picture is contemporary with the Castle Hyde one? The viaduct dates from 1872. To quote The Corkman www.independent.ie/regionals/corkman/news/plan-for-iconic...: "Known locally as 'The Red Bridge', the protected structure was built in 1872 as part of the Fermoy to Lismore railway line. In 1966, the imposing viaduct, which spans the River Blackwater, was used as the backdrop to one of the most iconic aviation movie sequences ever captured on celluloid in the World-War-I-themed film 'The Blue Max'. This after stunt pilot Derek Piggott flew a Fokker Dr I triplane under the bridge with only four feet of wing clearance on either side. The scene was the dramatic climax to the film, which saw two German WWI pilots (played by George Peppard and Jeremy Kemp) go head-to-head in a death-defying dual of nerves to see which one would emerge as master of the skies. Piggott flew the plane under the wide bridge span 15 times, and a staggering 17 times beneath the narrow span in order to capture the perfect sequence. "

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    cargeofg

    • 11/May/2020 16:22:38

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Well yes indeed we could stop, detach our keep warm mugs of tea powered by the electric bike and admire the bridge and wonder about internal combustion engines powering triplanes as a helicopter powered by a hydrogen fuel cell passes over head. Will have to go and look at that film again I am sure I have seen it but was unaware of Irish connection. Design or shape of pillars came up in discussion with a friend as been similar to Pontcysyllte Aquaduct in North Wales.

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    derangedlemur

    • 11/May/2020 16:29:47

    Lots of Irish connections - Trinity college, Gardiner street, Winetavern street, etc. I thought the viaduct was the one in Louth, though.

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    suckindeesel

    • 11/May/2020 22:27:30

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Here's the list of filming locatIons www.imdb.com/title/tt0060177/locations including the 1872 Carrigabrick, which brings me back to my original point if the viaduct photo is contemporary with the Castle Hyde photo? If you had been around the Bray area at the time you couldn't help but notice the dog fights above. Of course, the studio was Ardmore.

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    cargeofg

    • 12/May/2020 09:19:44

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] There are a number of viaduct photos in The Lawrence collection. Had a look through them with Fermoy as filter. Numbers on plates are wide ranging. Castle Hyde single photo is 1404 then there is one of the viaduct 1407 .Then 4030 is boat and viaduct. 7224 is listed as bridge. But is the viaduct with house in background. Nicely framed photo that one.Our viaduct photo 00061 of "Laclash castle" as it is listed in the collection has Liclash Castle on the plate. There is also a CashCastle plate 0438A. But there is another viaduct listed as Bridgetown on plate 44. Given the plate numbers I would say the Castle Hyde photo single or stereo is not contemporary to that particular photo. Project in itself.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 12/May/2020 10:16:59

    The 'nearby' STPs show a sequence of "Cruising Down The River On A Sunday Afternoon" - STP_2067 - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000565386 - Ballyhooley STP_2068 - this photo STP_2069 - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000565388 - Weir at Fermoy STP_2070 - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000565389 - Under the railway viaduct STP_2071 - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000565390 - Railway viaduct The two viaduct photos do not look like the bridge is 1872 new due to vegetation. Thinking that all photos including this one are early 1880s. [Aside] Googlesphere viaductview 2019 - goo.gl/maps/DkCSCMntK4iUh2Md9

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    suckindeesel

    • 14/May/2020 08:19:03

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] flying under the bridge m.facebook.com/241844877097/posts/filming-the-blue-max-at...

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    cargeofg

    • 14/May/2020 17:11:16

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Great photo.Still from film ?