John Tyndall, half-length portrait, facing front

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When: 01 January 1850

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This image of John Tyndall has so much information contained within regarding sartorial, tonsorial and “barborial”, all denoting the fashions of a time! Who was John Tyndall? Did he write songs as well, or was he a wielder of the sword rather than the pen?

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Turns out he was more of a wielder of the mind, rather than sword or pen. There was some initial argument as to whether this was, in fact, John Tyndall – based on hair parting, facial features, facial hair, apparent age in various portraits, and the name J. Glastrich on the carte-de-visite itself. However, the consensus is that this is indeed physicist John Tyndall, professor of physics at London’s Royal Institution from 1853 to 1887. He was a very interesting fellow.
Domhnall Sioradáin provided us with a succinct biography:
Tyndall, from Leighlinbridge, Carlow, is remembered in Cork, in the Tyndall National Institute. He left Carlow at 18 to work for the Ordnance Survey around Munster, before moving to Preston. He is noted for his explanation of why the sky is blue (Rayleigh scattering), heat absorption by CO2 in the atmosphere, and the measurement of aerosols by scattering (Tyndall effect).

Photographers: Millard and Robinson

Collection: Invincibles cartes de visite Photographic Collection

Date: Around 1850?!

NLI Ref: NPA INV1

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    O Mac

    • 16/Apr/2020 08:29:17

    Millard & Robinson 39 Sackville Street Lower. First listed in 1863, as Thomas Millard. From 1865 to 1887, Millard & Robinson. As John Tyndall was born in 1820 he would have been 45 years old when M and R established... He looks a lot younger here? Something amiss?

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    abandoned railways

    • 16/Apr/2020 08:47:55

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tyndall

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 16/Apr/2020 08:48:02

    Here he is circa 1850 according to - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tyndall [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/10346513003/] via [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/]

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    derangedlemur

    • 16/Apr/2020 08:56:49

    So who's J. Glastrick?

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    O Mac

    • 16/Apr/2020 09:06:31

    I'm not convinced that this is John Tyndall the physicists.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 16/Apr/2020 09:30:38

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Does this help ... Here he is in 1865 in London - www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/carte-de-visite-... Professor [John] Tyndall once said the finest inspiration he ever received was from an old man who could scarcely read. This man acted as his servant. Each morning the old man would knock on the door of the scientist and call, "Arise, Sir: it is near seven o'clock and you have great work to do today.” ― Elbert Hubbard

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    Foxglove

    • 16/Apr/2020 09:33:36

    I agree with o mac. this is not "the" John Tyndall, physicist extraordinaire. JT had a finer nose and in all images his beard is "side chops" rather than full face.

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    O Mac

    • 16/Apr/2020 09:45:06

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Nope. From Wiki .. a funny ending... "In his last years Tyndall often took chloral hydrate to treat his insomnia. When bedridden and ailing, he died from an accidental overdose of this drug in 1893 at the age of 73, The overdose was administered by his wife Louisa. “My darling,” said Tyndall when he realized what had happened, “you have killed your John.”

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    Foxglove

    • 16/Apr/2020 09:57:25

    also, the flocks of beard on the chin; it could be an artefact of the photos edge or else, they look as if this part of the beard has been "photoshopped" or touched up/ post processed

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    John A. Coffey

    • 16/Apr/2020 10:19:54

    From Leighlinbridge (the Carlow Fleadh was to be there), Ceatharlach abu.

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    derangedlemur

    • 16/Apr/2020 10:38:41

    Given that invariable policy of Millard and Robinson seems otherwise to have been to write the subject name on the card, I would contend that this is J. Glastrick, of no apparent fame (or notoriety) whatsoever.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Apr/2020 10:43:19

    only 7 references to Glastrick in the birth/marriage/death records, all in the 1800s, no Mr Js.

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    derangedlemur

    • 16/Apr/2020 10:46:01

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Perhaps the gentleman in question is foreign.

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    Foxglove

    • 16/Apr/2020 10:49:00

    I have tried j glastrich ( h not a k) still no luck. it's not Tyndall and a sweep through a range of 19th century politico/academic/literary was not fruitful either

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    John Spooner

    • 16/Apr/2020 10:53:25

    Here's a portrait which appeared in The Graphic on 19th July 1873 to accompany an article about him. Graphic - Saturday 19 July 1873

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Apr/2020 10:56:19

    only one Glastrick by 1901 census, Kate, 43 Her census record looked odd, lots of women no occupations. In 1911 she is still with a load of other women: nuns and Laundresses. Oh dear.

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    John Spooner

    • 16/Apr/2020 11:07:17

    A few Glastricks in the papers, but either wrong timeframe or not J Glastrick, no Glastrichs, one Glostrick (Mary)'

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    John Spooner

    • 16/Apr/2020 11:15:15

    Two more pictures of John Tyndall, both from a 1945 article about him in the Illustrated London News. I'm going to put forward a controversial opinion that the Millard & Robinson photo is the scientist. Same hair parting, same (almost) full beard (bare top lip), same nose. A drawing made in 1864 Illustrated London News - Saturday 14 July 1945_1864 At the time of his wedding in 1876 Illustrated London News - Saturday 14 July 1945_1876

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    AndyBrii

    • 16/Apr/2020 12:29:15

    'Heat -a Mode of Motion' by John Tyndall 1875. [ www.flickr.com/photos/angeljim46/6380382963/in/photolist-...]

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    suckindeesel

    • 16/Apr/2020 14:06:57

    "The brightest flashes in the world of thought are incomplete until they have been proven to have their counterparts in the world of fact" -John Tyndall

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    suckindeesel

    • 16/Apr/2020 15:52:53

    A link to Tyndall's 1863 blockbuster 'Heat - a mode of motion' for those of a scientific bent. archive.org/details/ajn2167.0001.001.umich.edu/page/XVI/m...

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    Domhnallcos

    • 16/Apr/2020 16:34:01

    Tyndall is that rarity, someone famous from Carlow! 150 years ago he measured the heat retention of atmospheric gases, the first hint of the runaway greenhouse effect, although this is disputed by many in the USA, who remain fixed in 1776.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 16/Apr/2020 19:21:20

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Just reading through the comments before I move on to dinner and your analysis gave me a good belly laugh! Good for the digestion I would say!!!

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 17/Apr/2020 07:49:57

    When I posted this yesterday morning I was under the impression that Tyndall was in some way connected to the Invincibles and I was looking forward to learning more about that group of diehards. Instead we find that the portrait is that of a distinguished physicist and a man of learning. Rather than a wielder of the sword that was expected we discovered an enquiring mind and a wielder of the pen and test tube! Flickr truly is amazing!

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    Carol Maddock

    • 17/Apr/2020 10:56:13

    Hello Flickroonies, wherever you are! I'm looking for a vote here as I want to add the information about John Tyndall to our NLI catalogue record. https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] You three still don't think this is John Tyndall at all? Or have you come around to thinking it is JT? Morning Mary and https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner and I/me (never sure which is correct there) think it is John Tyndall. What do I do?

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    derangedlemur

    • 17/Apr/2020 11:33:33

    I have no opinion. I'm just curious about the elusive J. Glastrick, and why did they get represented in, commission, or donate this photo?

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 17/Apr/2020 11:45:14

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] I am 80% for John Tyndall. But as he himself said, "The brightest flashes in the world of thought are incomplete until they have been proven to have their counterparts in the world of fact." Ed. ping @ www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ who know all about him! See - www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/albums/721576366818489...

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    Foxglove

    • 17/Apr/2020 11:46:04

    Hi Carol, I would vote "Yes" to list it as John Tyndall, I do have wee doubts but these mainly arise from photo quality. It looks more like him than not and other more experienced people should give the yes/no. He ranks up with other 19th century greats like Faraway and Clark-Maxwell and a mountaineer to boot! and also an early prophet of climate change AND he came from Carlow ;-)

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    Carol Maddock

    • 17/Apr/2020 13:16:00

    Thanks all! Sure lookit, https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove, Carlow, to be fair now, in fairness! :)

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    derangedlemur

    • 17/Apr/2020 14:00:33

    Well sure lookit, if he's from Carlow, that must be him. I never did see a fellah look so much like a Carlow man!

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    O Mac

    • 17/Apr/2020 15:03:58

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Of course it's John Tyndall. 100% Whoever said it wasn't him is a fake news wind up merchant. Just stirring the pot...

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    Domhnallcos

    • 17/Apr/2020 17:17:37

    Tyndall, from Leighlinbridge, Carlow, is remembered in Cork, in the Tyndall National Institute. He left Carlow at 18 to work for the Ordnance Survey around Munster, before moving to Preston. He is noted for his explanation of why the sky is blue (Rayleigh scattering), heat absorption by CO2 in the atmosphere and the measurement of aerosols by scattering (Tyndall effect).

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 17/Apr/2020 21:12:51

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] RUOK?! Did you see this macabre photo of the murderous Mrs Tyndall? (ref. "a funny ending" above) - [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/12454705154/in/album-72157636681848994/] "Reminiscenses of John Tyndall, by John Tidmarsh" (1894) - great yarn about the Ordnance Survey days, via Trove - trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/53641872

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    O Mac

    • 18/Apr/2020 06:44:56

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Brilliant... what a strange photograph?? Why would anyone take a photo of such a private moment? .......That Trove article by Tidmarsh is also very interesting and well written...... Tyndall seems to have been a phenomenon of a man... It is known that Millard and Robinson started making carte to visites in 1865. As Tyndall was born in 1820 I cannot see the sitter being anywhere close to 45 years old... The other images of Tyndall taken 1860's are of a much older looking man. I would put the man in photo being no more than 30 suggesting photo taken 1850ish.... Maybe Millard took it then but printed it much later when Robinson joined business. I won't loose sleep over it...

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    Dr. Ilia

    • 23/Apr/2020 08:00:11

    Nice!