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Where: Ulster, Donegal, Ireland
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Try to find the date or year when this image was made.The caption states "Flooded Street" but it's not flooded, just very wet! What is remarkable is the stream of cars coming down the street in Glenties. What was going on? Was it a funeral or were the politicians in town?
Photographers: Denis Tynan 1923 - 2010
Collection: TYNAN PHOTOGRAPHIC COLLECTION
Date: between 1950-1960
NLI Ref: NPA TYN644
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derangedlemur
The lead car is registered in Dublin, pre-1937. The other two identifiable regs are local.
derangedlemur
May as well have some streetview: goo.gl/maps/CLzPP9KpoqQ2aGKv6
derangedlemur
And perhaps a spot of OSI: bit.ly/2xmz7Rp
derangedlemur
Well, it's not Costello's visit, anyway. Too much rain and not enough bunting. Seems to be roughly contemporaneous though, judging by the collection of cars.
Foxglove
oh as I don't have a clue I guess it might be a vintage car rally ? they are very popular - maybe it's a visit by politicians after the flood?
derangedlemur
https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove Aside from the lead car, I don't think these were significantly vintage at the time the picture was taken.
Niall McAuley
A tour or car club outing? Those cars look "classic" i.e. old when the pic was taken.
abandoned railways
Several photos taken of this event. They are all driving in the middle of the road. catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000736426/HierarchyTree
abandoned railways
Flooded road to glenties www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaSFoD1yGFk
Carol Maddock
https://www.flickr.com/photos/abandonedrailsireland Very good! :)
suckindeesel
The lead car, ZA4099, is a Dublin City reg, May 1933 – Mar 1937 The 'IH' reg is Donegal used up to 1952
Paddywhack56
https://www.flickr.com/photos/abandonedrailsireland They are also travelling in the opposite direction up the street. I'd love to know the story behind these.
Carol Maddock
I did a quick and dirty search in Donegal newspapers for the period. Hundreds of results. It must never have stopped raining in Donegal in the 1950s.
cargeofg
Lead car is a 8hp Ford Model Y Produced 1933-37. Third car looks to be a Riley RMB. Bigger version after RMA. Splitscreen bumper overiders etc all help but grill is obscured. So wet not even a dog is out.
derangedlemur
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Or since.
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Some of the same cars seen parked here, with something interesting going on up the hill catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000736450/HierarchyTree?hiera... . A guess - possibly behind this photo - goo.gl/maps/MLUvuhuHYSEzMH1y7 ?
O Mac
Here's another taken at same time ( note roof ladder) showing similar type/age cars. I would think taken lower to mid 50's which would sort of rule out the "vintage car" parade. catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000740658 And this with same date range, 50/60, with a lot of changes. ESB rewired poles, P+T phone box, Shell Pumps, hotel signage etc. The absence of parked cars is strange...bar the one. Donegal Motor Club was established in 1970 so not their outing. Strange photo.
O Mac
This photo that [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] linked catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000736450/HierarchyTree?hiera... was taken outside the GAA ground. Glenties V ????? .. Tho' one would have thought Tynan would have taken a photo of game/crowd if so. www.google.ie/maps/@54.7991934,-8.2850927,3a,75y,32.31h,8...
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Went there once, rained every day for a week, never returned. Many years ago, Odlums had a tv add for their porridge, which was set in a very wet, cold and windy Donegal. The local tourist board weren't impressed and insisted that RTE remove it.
Carol Maddock
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I don't remember that one, but now I'm singing Start the Day the Flahavan's Way, on a cold and frosty mooooorning... :)
John Spooner
Here's a possibility: The Derry Journal of 3rd April reported on the visit of Mr M.J. Keyes, Minister of Local Government, to Glenties in order to declare open 25 new houses at Drumnasillagh, just outside the town. "The houses ... represent the first instalment of Donegal Co Council's post-war housing drive". There's a list of worthies who attended - local and national politicians, senior civil servants, architects and engineers. I counted 35 names - enough for a tidy-sized motorcade. No mention of the weather but there's a picture of Mr Keyes outside a front door receiving a key from the architect and they are well wrapped up. Lunch was held and speeches made at the Highlands Hotel.
John Spooner
Or maybe not. The paper has a photo of the houses being blessed by the Very Rev Canon J Cunningham, surrounded by a small throng (which may be the worthies listed plus a few hangers-on). I would imagine that Mr Tynan would have photographed the people if he'd been there to record the event, rather than just cars.
Carol Maddock
https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner What year is that, John?
John Spooner
1950
John Spooner
And here are the council houses www.google.com/maps/@54.793906,-8.2796832,3a,75y,216.48h,... They are to the south of the town, so the photo doesn't show the VIPs coming back to the Highlands Hotel for lunch (as I'd hoped) because the convoy is coming from the north.
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] You're right, I think it was Flahavan's. The idea being that it was just the job for the harsh Donegal weather. Didn't go down too well with the local tourist industry.
DannyM8
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ We went there for a Month it only rained three times, morning, noon and night!
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] If an RMB, then 1946 onwards.
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner The shot of the parked cars on the hill was taken less than 30-m from the Hotel and only 200-m from that new council developement
cargeofg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] RMA 45 to 52 RMB 46 to 52 Then last of the range of saloons RME 52 to 55 All looked very similar front on with their split screens but last of RME had different restyled front mudguards and no running boards. Father in law arranged to have one( RMA ) as our wedding car when we got married in 1998. Spent more time talking to the driver who I knew on the way to reception that to my new wife. We are still married.
O Mac
suckindeesel I believe the parked car photo was taken at the other (N)side of town at turn off for Dungloe N57 as evidenced by road sign in the photo. This parked car photo was taken before the above one was as all cars are facing south towards the hotel.
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] That would allow the 1950 housing
suckindeesel
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Have a look at catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000736423/HierarchyTree for a better look at that Riley
suckindeesel
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner] What about these guys outside the hotel, does anybody recognise them? catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000736429/HierarchyTree
Dr. Ilia
very nice capture!
cargeofg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Well the Riley is gone and 50s timeline. nlpnt has suggested Ford or Standard for the third car. I would go with 1938 Ford Model 81A. After looking at a good photo of one you can see the tear drop shaped headlamps are the same.
John Spooner
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] In one of tyhe papers there's a group photo of the ministers, councillors etc but none of them looks like the 3 outside the hotel.
cargeofg
catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000736423/HierarchyTree [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Thanks for link. Third car looks more like an Austin with the sloping logo on the rad. Austin 10 model? One letter and 4 numbers all a bit fuzzy but a Z reg from Dublin. The eight car in line up could by our Ford or another one. On zoom it has the flowing chrome trim along bonnet line and down by Rad grill.
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner That's a pity, it would pin it down if they could be identified. So, possibly not the new housing. However, the hill photo was taken 200m from there, just down the road from the hotel.
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] You would need access to the reg archive, if one existed.
John Spooner
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Here is the group picture with the main VIPs
cargeofg
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000736450/HierarchyTree?hiera... There is also a Model Y in this photo first on the left Z reg also. There is a archive list of county regs on the net came across it a week or so ago on another hunt. But it is for very early low numbers and does not extend to 4 digit numbers. Z ran from March1927 toJan 1940 and reverse issue started Feb1971. Do any of The Marys have old county car tax/reg number records at Library Towers
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner Thanks for the link, I didn't see any matches either. Maybe one day Google will include a facial recognition search tool.
suckindeesel
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] I still think that the hill photo was taken from here, just around the corner from the hotel goo.gl/maps/Rm6ybBXMEHfBWiZ48
O Mac
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ I can't see how that location makes sense. In the parked photo the cars are positioned as they appear in the cortege photo. Even that 30's little Ford is head of the line. If you're right how do you explain all the cars having neatly turned around to face the way from where they've come/or yet to go. . The road to dungloe is out the other side of town. Road sign for dungloe is visible on the right in "parked" photo
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] The 'parked cars' photo has the road sign to Dungloe and Ardara, and a staircase to what is now an extended Market Hall - both seen in this (differenr time) Costello visit photo - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000736457/HierarchyTree Streetview - goo.gl/maps/D1XHf4PScaRi4gb78 There is/was a Catholic Church up the hill on the left; a funeral? catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000736945 (Mr French / Lawrence was there earlier - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000324830 ) Rebuilt in 1974 - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000740711 www.welovedonegal.com/ch-st-conals-glenties.html
O Mac
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ ah now I get you... very good... I find it very odd that after driving down the town all the cars should all turn around and park facing back the way they came. tis not normal carry on.. Thanks
suckindeesel
I like those petrol pumps each side of the street, so basic, from a simpler era. I didn't think there were any left nowadays, until I saw a modern pair outside a Daybreak in Thomastown recently. The fuel tanks must be buried under the footpath.
suckindeesel
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner] I think that the "men on flooded street" photo are the same people shown in the hotel entrance in our photo. See catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000736423/HierarchyTree for a slightly better shot of them. Probably hotel management awaiting the return of the VIPs for lunch? The street is strangely devoid of people or other traffic, with just one lone parked car.
cargeofg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] There were three different sets in Domnick St. Mullingar. Last set of pumps at O'Callaghans (ESSO) went late 90s.
suckindeesel
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] The current streetview goo.gl/maps/eo4PE8fYopDmmkU26 still shows pumps on footpath in Thomastown
suckindeesel
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Z was Co. Dublin, Mar 1927 – Sep 1938, according to Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_the_.... However, only gives date ranges.
cargeofg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Early listings on Lennon Wylie website give you who the car or motorcycle was registered to but only goes up to late hundreds and make is not listed. If the photo was taken in 1950 I would agree with https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove and would no have been vintage at that time. Prior to NCT Ireland had the oldest car Pool/park in Europe.
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I remember those pre NCT times and the number of bangers on the road, including my own. However, the most decrepit vehicles I ever saw was in Tunisia about 10 years ago.
oldhemar
N56 County Donegal is the real name of this place. www.google.com/maps/@54.7958104,-8.2813149,3a,75y,316.71h...
oldhemar
check the right side the first 3 roofs and the small window on the second. and course,the Hotel Highlands
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Thanks for your comments.
Gil_13mrs
Pourquoi rouler au milieu de la voie au lieu tenir la gauche (ou la droite) ?
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Nous n'en avons aucune idée. Évidemment, il vaut mieux rester à gauche en Irlande. Peut-être que la route était fermée dans l'autre sens pour une raison inconnue, mais nous ne le savons pas. Merci pour ton intérêt. Mary