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When: 01 January 1875
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The archivist trying to describe this image provided an elaborate title "River, rocky bed, between wooded banks, weir seen from dumstream, mill wheel mill, outflow to left" I await an explanation for "Dumstream" and a virtual sticky bun for the best version!
The scene is wide and sylvan with an enormous mill building, probably a tidal river below the falls and a verdant river bank.
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Photographers: Frederick Holland Mares, James Simonton
Contributor: John Fortune Lawrence
Collection: Stereo Pairs Photograph Collection
Date: between ca. 1860-1883
NLI Ref: STP_0735
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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The scene is wide and sylvan with an enormous mill building, probably a tidal river below the falls and a verdant river bank.
Where is/was it?
Photographers: Frederick Holland Mares, James Simonton
Contributor: John Fortune Lawrence
Collection: Stereo Pairs Photograph Collection
Date: between ca. 1860-1883
NLI Ref: STP_0735
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The CommonsSource: Flickr Commons
Views: 19673
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nl042
Could "dumstream" be a semi-legible "downstream"? A search for a definition of the former turns up a blank online and I don't have time to fire up my OED on DVD at the moment.
derangedlemur
Well, it's not Sheen River or Aasleagh, anyway, and I don't think it's Ennistimon. I've seen it in one of Mason's shots - I've a notion it's up round Lifford or Strabane.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Sorry Nigel, you will not taste the delights of our delicious virtual sticky buns so;-)
O Mac
Looks like the Salmon Leap Mills on the Liffey at Leixlip.
derangedlemur
Could be: catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000326235 It's under 20 foot of water now, so it's a bit hard to be certain.
O Mac
OSI 25" bit.ly/2x6Z33d There's a later photo down the page in this Leixlip History site. Apparently this was a flax and later a flock mill. www.kildare.ie/leixliphistory/archives/leixlip_around_1798/
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Dumstreamview - goo.gl/maps/itxi8mrW9ezX9tiy7
Foxglove
is it at Bruree, Ireland's once largest mill. I was once planning to buy renovate it decades ago !!!
cargeofg
I would go along with Nigel Leyland. The mill wheel looks to be of the undershot type. Normally you have a head race to supply water to the mill wheel and sometimes a tail race to return the water to the river. Also known as leats. These are more often seen on an overshot mill wheel than an undershot one. Under shot mill wheels though less efficient were cheaper to construct as you did not need the associated water delivery channels. . Further down the Liffy there is a millrace /head race at the Wren's Nest Weir that would have fed a mill at Palmerstown.
Foxglove
on closer inspection and putting youthful dreams aside, it is not Bruree
O Mac
This is an overshot wheel as the flume is clearly visible. edit"... hard to see clearly but it could also be a high breast wheel meaning buckets filling and falling back the ways.... ie wheel turning clockwise as we look at it.
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Undershot / overshot wheel ... there be trouble at t' mill ! Leaping salmon ... there be bubble at t' mill ! Stereo pair photograph ... there be double at t' mill ! Thank you, and good night !
cargeofg
I stand corrected (underwater)O Mac I was working off the centre of wheel to falls level. On closer inspection on another screen I can see flume and water spill from buckets. I took the structure over the wheel to be a balcony or platform to a side entrance to mill and to inspect wheel.
suckindeesel
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] It's a good match with the Salmon Leap, compare the stone arch on right in catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000326235 , which is just visible in our shot. Also, the weir is very similar, water flow on right, dry on left, revealing the same stone construction.
nl042
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia and wi' all o' t' rocks in t' water, there's rubble at t' mill.
suckindeesel
And, of course, Leixlip is from the Old Norse "lax hlaup", meaning "salmon leap". It was furthest those pesky Vikings could navigate from dumstream.
O Mac
The ESB raised the river level when the Leixlip hydro station dumstream was commissioned in 1949.
silverio10
Buenas fotos antiguas .
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Right, since https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] failed in his bid to win the virtual sticky bun and as you are the only other one to mention it you have to accept the award. It has to go today or it just becomes messy in the laptop!
Niall McAuley
Salmon Leap Mills on the 25" OSI map is labelled Flock.
le cabri
Really like this one.
Thea Prum
Beautiful
cargeofg
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Just to confirm construction of breast shot wheel found this in NLI www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/46465956205/in/photolist-...
O Mac
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] That's a high breast wheel alright...
cargeofg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] It is big did you read comments https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley When I get a minute I will try to scale it off the men (say5'-10" ) Trough for water looks to iron plates as you can see rivets on Zoom.