Drawing (allegedly), unidentified building (definitely).
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When: 01 January 1900
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Back on terra firma today, but we don't know where this building, described in our catalogue as "Drawing, unidentified building" was (or maybe still is). In Ireland or 'out foreign'?
While everyone agrees that this is definitely not in Ireland, and very likely somewhere on the continent (France, Germany, or bordering countries), the precise location seems to evade us. Which is surprising in itself :) Have we finally stumped the unstumpable?
Collection: Mason Photographic Collection
Date: Catalogue range c.1890-1910.
NLI Ref: M51/12
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While everyone agrees that this is definitely not in Ireland, and very likely somewhere on the continent (France, Germany, or bordering countries), the precise location seems to evade us. Which is surprising in itself :) Have we finally stumped the unstumpable?
Collection: Mason Photographic Collection
Date: Catalogue range c.1890-1910.
NLI Ref: M51/12
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The CommonsSource: Flickr Commons
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John Spooner
The "BYHHR" sign suggests it might be somewhere in France.
John Spooner
Are those sentry boxes either side of the main entrance? I'd guess it's a caserne somewhere.
derangedlemur
Previous Mason shots with this vibe have been in Potsdam.
abandoned railways
Maybe BYRAN
Niall McAuley
Looks like a job for Sharon :D
Niall McAuley
The big D over the arch suggests an institution, looks more like a University than a hospital.
Niall McAuley
Sentry boxes, bars on the ground floor windows suggest something more secure than a University...
derangedlemur
The annex on the right seems to serve some commercial purpose. It's plastered with posters.
Niall McAuley
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner] Are you thinkiong of BYRRH, a French drink?
CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY
Looks like an Army Hospital. Thus, Sentry Boxes. Looks similar to an Army Hospital, in Germany.
John Spooner
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Oops, yes, that's the one.
derangedlemur
It can't be a barracks. The finish is too good and the windows are too big. It's some other sort of institution that needs guards.
derangedlemur
It does look very south German or Austro-Hungarian. Or Londony, which doesn't narrow it down much.
derangedlemur
It'd hardly be a town hall with no clock on it.
silverio10
Buenas fotos antiguas .
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France? Germany? Austria? Belgium? Switzerland? ... I vote for Luxembourg ... douze points !
CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY
NLI Ref: M51/12 Was the Mason foreign collection . . . So, look at other photos in the collection. Where were they taken, if you can use a process of elimination.
Niall McAuley
One problem is that there is a good chance this building was bombed flat 75 years ago.
derangedlemur
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Yep. If it's in Dresden, I don't much rate your chances of finding it now.
Gregory PC
Could it be an embassy or consulate building? It might explain the sentry posts.
derangedlemur
https://www.flickr.com/photos/abandonedrailsireland Actually, I think you're right about it being a church. The pictures on the outside look like religious icons. I wonder what the relevance of BYRAH/BYRAN is?
sharon.corbet
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley I've been coming up blank, though it does look annoyingly familiar. (Most likely just overexposure to south German architecture on my part though.) https://www.flickr.com/photos/8468254@N02 https://www.flickr.com/photos/abandonedrailsireland After looking at the Megazoom too long, I think I can see "Café *Something possibly beginning with M or W*" on a sign outside the door on the right.
derangedlemur
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet Yeah, I just ran it through the equalizer, and it could be, but the picture looks like a Jesus with a massive halo. I also think it looks familiar, except I expect it to be on fire with soldiers charging about the place. Again, over exposure to particular subjects, I suspect.
derangedlemur
Just equalised the whole "chapel". I'm back to my earlier theory that those are posters, not icons.
derangedlemur
That's quite a distinctive lamppost, if anyone knows anything about lampposts.
derangedlemur
Also interesting - what I took to be snow is actually mud and water. The place is completely sodden. Despite this sogginess, it's still definitely foreign. The house at the end past the chapel is not UK or Ireland.
derangedlemur
I think I've found our lamp in a history of the street lighting of Karlsruhe. The lamp in the book is in Paris. www.flickr.com/photos/8468254@N02/48121569441/
derangedlemur
Apparently there was a big inundation in Paris in 1910. maybe that's why everything's soggy.
derangedlemur
I've also found some better images of French sentry boxes. They have a broad vertical white stripe over the door and no chevrons on the side, which is corroboration.
derangedlemur
The two things it is most like are the old prefecture in Versailles, and the Musee des Beaux Arts in Arras, but the internet doesn't seem to know an architect for either.
David Pirmann
The ref to Byrrh on the side of the chapel(?) building is a French aperitif en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byrrh
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/dpirmann Thank you.