Ridgways group when young - and old!
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Each morning I have a choice as to which photo to upload and these vary from the sublime to the tragic. Yesterdays shot reminding us of the misery that arose from evictions and other tragedies proved much more educational than we had expected. Today's shot is one that would warm the cockles of your heart. "Ridgways group when young" is the title but there are a couple of adults in there with a Granny looking like a key player in the group! I will enjoy finding out about the Ridgways, have a nice weekend!
Based on the description ("Ridgways group when young"), and the census return for the Ridgway family from 1901, the general consensus is that image predates the lower catalogue date range bound. While it could have been a later copy, the suggestion is that this image was probably originally taken c.1890. Perhaps "out the back" of the family home on Newtown Road in Waterford. If correct, according to Niall McAuley pictured here are Mary Atkinson (granny/mother-in-law), mother Kathleen, father Richard G. Ridgway, and children (oldest first): Henry, Helena, Mary, George, Joseph, Thomas, Leopold, Gerald and Richenda.....
Photographer: A. H. Poole
Collection: Poole Photographic Studio, Waterford
Date: Catalogue range c.1901-1954. Perhaps before 1901 (copy?)
NLI Ref: POOLEWP 0152b
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Based on the description ("Ridgways group when young"), and the census return for the Ridgway family from 1901, the general consensus is that image predates the lower catalogue date range bound. While it could have been a later copy, the suggestion is that this image was probably originally taken c.1890. Perhaps "out the back" of the family home on Newtown Road in Waterford. If correct, according to Niall McAuley pictured here are Mary Atkinson (granny/mother-in-law), mother Kathleen, father Richard G. Ridgway, and children (oldest first): Henry, Helena, Mary, George, Joseph, Thomas, Leopold, Gerald and Richenda.....
Photographer: A. H. Poole
Collection: Poole Photographic Studio, Waterford
Date: Catalogue range c.1901-1954. Perhaps before 1901 (copy?)
NLI Ref: POOLEWP 0152b
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The CommonsSource: Flickr Commons
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fraser donachie
... the reflections in the window are great!
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
https://www.flickr.com/photos/-phraser- I was focused in on the group and missed that! It looks like a giant mask behind the window!!!!
Dr. Ilia
masterful capture
domenico milella
Congratulation for your beautiful Album.
Niall McAuley
30 Ridgways in the 1911 census, and this being a Poole, the most likely group are the Waterford ones, but they are all older. Perhaps a combo of the Cork and Waterford Ridgways?
Niall McAuley
Or perhaps the title indicates that this is a Poole copy of an older picture of the Waterford Ridgways when young?
dearbhaile2
would the old lady be dressed in black because she is a widow ?
Niall McAuley
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Could be, but in B&W she could be in any dark colour,,,
Rory_Sherlock
This family from 1901 include an elderly mother-in-law - perhaps the photo was taken before 1901 (as the children's ages in the 1901 census are older than the children in the photo) www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Water...
Niall McAuley
Yes - see the Waterford Ridgways in 1901. Mother, Father, M-in-L, 9 children.
Rory_Sherlock
This family seem to fit the 1901 census (if the photo was taken about 12 years before the census) - the 'running order' of ages from the census is 1 boy, then 2 girls, then 5 boys, then 1 girl, which could match the family group
Niall McAuley
Youngest in shot is about 2 - youngest Richenda in 1901 is 13, so the original would be from about 1890. If we are correct: the old lady is Mary C. Atkinson, mother in law, mother is Kathleen father is Richard G. and the children (oldest first) are: Henry, Helena, Mary, George, Joseph, Thomas, Leopold, Gerald and Richenda.
Niall McAuley
In both censusseses they were living on Newtown Road. Several big houses there. "Butter merchant?"
derangedlemur
The description in the building return form suggests that it's Rockville: www.google.ie/maps/@52.2499924,-7.0949274,3a,75y,274.84h,... It could also be Weston (which isn't visible) or Newtown Villas, though they don't match Rockville and Weston for quantity of Ivy.
Swordscookie
We've seen Rockville before in the Galwey wedding?
sharon.corbet
According to Joseph (who played an interesting minor part in the 1916 Rising) they lived at Riverview House.
derangedlemur
Looking at adjacent houses, and counting windows, it seems that either the enumerator couldn't count, or the houses are not listed in order. We have 6 houses with 5 windows in front in a row here www.google.ie/maps/@52.2511557,-7.096126,3a,75y,266.35h,8..., but no group of 6 in the building form. Maybe they went from one side of the road to the other.
derangedlemur
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet Do you think that's Riverdale? Riverview doesn't seem to be a thing round Newtown road. Or maybe Suir View, which became Newtown Park?
sharon.corbet
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] The parents' grave also has Riverview House.
derangedlemur
Hmm. Riverview is up by Mountsion.
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Richard Grubb Ridgway in The Peerage - www.thepeerage.com/p26539.htm#i265383 . His mother was a Grubb (see four photos ago!) [completely confused]
Niall McAuley
Interesting that Richard G. is for Grubb. I wonder if there is a connection to Hilda?
Newtown School was a Quaker school at the time, and the Friends graveyard is here too.
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
The Plot thickens!
Niall McAuley
Maybe - per thepeerage: Richard Grubb Ridgway was born on 18 February 1846. He was the son of Henry Ridgway and Sarah Haughton Grubb. He died on 6 February 1917 at age 70. He lived at Riverview House, Waterford, County Waterford, Ireland.
Niall McAuley
I don't see a family connection, and thepeerage follows the Grubbs back into the 1600s.
sharon.corbet
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] If I’ve counted correctly, Hilda Grubb and Richard Grubb Ridgway shared a great-great-great grandfather. John Grubb (1682-1731). Though given all the intermarriages, they may be more closely related though a maternal line.
Fruit of the Loom - Da Kayo Kid
Bless their Irish Hearts.. Nine siblings.....A man with great responsibilities...... A woman with many mouths to feed,....and a Grannie, dizzy over all the the kids to watch, stories to be told, and all the Rosaries to be said on the family’s behalf.
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
I am counting ten children in this one. And no scary mother-in-law! And a DOG - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000590510
hliguy
Your morning choices are great. Keep up the good work. My morning choices usually are between dark, medium, or light roast.
The Texas Collection, Baylor University
This is beautiful! Was this scanned from a glass plate negative, cellulose, or photo print? Thanks so much for posting!
Swordscookie
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ a glass plate negative and thank you for dropping by.
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Thanks all! And apologies for "holding fire" on a summary of this one for so long. It just seemed prudent for some of the strands to come together. I've since updated the map, tags, description, etc!
moccasinlanding
My word, I hope the baby on her lap is a girl, for this family has only one girl to my reckoning, amidst a rout of sons. Indeed a great story told in the commentaries. Always a pleasure to Experience first rate detective work.